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Climate Skeptics See 'Smoking Gun' in Researchers' Leaked E-Mails (leading Foxnews HOMEPAGE!!)
foxnews ^ | 11/20/2009 | fox

Posted on 11/20/2009 11:35:06 AM PST by milwguy

Hackers broke into the servers at a prominent British climate research center and leaked years worth of e-mail messages onto the Web, including one with a mysterious reference to a plan to "hide the decline" in data about temperatures.

The Internet is abuzz about the leaked data from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (commonly called Hadley CRU), which has acknowledged the leak of 61MB of confidential data.

Climate change skeptics describe the leaked data as a "smoking gun," evidence of collusion among climatologists and manipulation of data to support the widely held view that climate change is caused by the actions of mankind. The files were reportedly released on a Russian file-serve by an anonymous poster calling himself "FOIA."

In an exclusive interview in Investigate magazine's TGIF Edition, Phil Jones, the head of the Hadley CRU, confirmed that the leaked data is real.

"It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago," he told the magazine, noting that the center has yet to contact the police about the data breach.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hadleycru
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Now we are getting somewhere. Maybe Drudge could pick up the story now. I have personally sent him links to 5-8 stories from BBC, Telegraph, etc already
1 posted on 11/20/2009 11:35:06 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

This will spread

Currently Google shows 6,560 hits using the keywords: global warming hacker Anglia.

Check the results in 24 hours.


2 posted on 11/20/2009 11:41:14 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: milwguy

Drudge finally has a link up on this, but it’s not real prominent.


3 posted on 11/20/2009 11:45:06 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: milwguy

Drudge has the story. Low key, right hand column: “Climate sceptics claim leaked emails are evidence of collusion among scientists...”


4 posted on 11/20/2009 11:46:02 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: milwguy
TGIF Edition asked Jones about the controversial "hide the decline" comment from an e-mail he wrote in 1999. He told the magazine that there was no intention to mislead, but he had "no idea" what he meant by those words.

"That was an e-mail from ten years ago. Can you remember the exact context of what you wrote ten years ago?" he said.

So, he can remember that he had no intention of misleading but can't remember what he meant by "hide the decline." Lame. Lame. Lame. This reminds me of the Clinton aide who claimed he had lied to his own diary. Keep up the good work, milwguy.

5 posted on 11/20/2009 11:47:26 AM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: PapaBear3625
you would think the exposure of the biggest scam in human history would merit a siren!
6 posted on 11/20/2009 11:56:12 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
you would think the exposure of the biggest scam in human history would merit a siren!

Drudge may be getting cautious in his old age. There's $100's of billions on the table, and some very powerful people are going to be very upset.

7 posted on 11/20/2009 12:12:22 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: milwguy

anyone know where the original 61 meg zip file can be found?

The original ftp site:

ftp.tomcity.ru/incoming/free/FOI2009.zip

is currently empty.


8 posted on 11/20/2009 12:13:23 PM PST by crescen7 (game on)
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To: Reaganesque

We’ll see.

Experience tells us this could be another Sandy Berger moment in U.S. history.


9 posted on 11/20/2009 12:14:38 PM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: crescen7
this thread has tons of links to the info:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390448/posts?q=1&;page=51

10 posted on 11/20/2009 12:16:51 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: crescen7

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=75J4XO4T


11 posted on 11/20/2009 12:17:14 PM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

I have my copy on flash drive and am reviewing emails. I am sure Steve McIntyre from Climate Audit will be reviewing data and codes released as well.


12 posted on 11/20/2009 12:18:32 PM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

I have my copy on flash drive and am reviewing emails. I am sure Steve McIntyre from Climate Audit will be reviewing data and codes released as well.


13 posted on 11/20/2009 12:19:59 PM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

I have my copy on flash drive and am reviewing emails. I am sure Steve McIntyre from Climate Audit will be reviewing data and codes released as well.


14 posted on 11/20/2009 12:20:01 PM PST by milwguy
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To: PapaBear3625

The headline should read “ALGORE CLIMATE HOAX EXPOSED!!!”

but wait CBS will say fake but accurate


15 posted on 11/20/2009 12:25:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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nice paper in the files saying the researcher could not get the 8 main climate models to produce the actual sea pressure measurements which were being observed.

In recent decades winter sea level pressure has decreased over the Arctic and increased in the Northern Hemisphere subtropics, with an associated strengthening of midlatitude westerly winds1. This trend has previously been shown to be inconsistent with simulated internal climate variability and with the simulated response to greenhouse gases and sulphate aerosol changes2,3, but other climate influences have been suggested as a possible reason for the discrepancy3. Here, for the first time, we compare observed Northern Hemisphere sea level pressure trends with those simulated in response to all the major climate forcings in eight state-of-the-art coupled climate models over the past 50 years, and find that the observed trend is inconsistent both with simulated internal variability and with the simulated response to combined human and natural climate influences.
We derive an index of the zonal circulation from December-February mean NCEP reanalysis data by subtracting mean sea level pressure northward of 45°N from mean sea level pressure between the Equator and 45°N. The trend in this index over the period 1955—2005 is shown in Fig. 1. We compare the observed trend with output from eight coupled climate models prepared for the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (UKMO-HadCM3, CCSM3, PCM, GFDL-CM2.0, GFDL-CM2.1, MIROC3.2(medres), GISS-EH, and GISS-ER). In order to assess whether the observed trend could be due to internal climate variability, we calculate equivalent zonal index trends in 3853 overlapping 50-year segments from the models’ control integrations (shown by the black histogram in Fig. 1). The observed trend is greater than any 50-yr zonal index trend in any of the model control simulations, indicating that the observed trend is inconsistent with simulated internal variability at the 2% significance level.
In order to assess the possible role of external forcing in the zonal index trends, we also calculate zonal indices for the period 1945—2005 in historical simulations of the climate models which include greenhouse gas, sulphate aerosol, stratospheric ozone, volcanic aerosol, and solar irradiance changes. In cases where the historical simulations ended before February 2005, output from scenario integrations with only anthropogenic forcings was used for those years not included in the historical simulation. The resulting zonal index trends in each of the 39 ensemble members are shown by the red histogram in Fig. 1. Although the mean trend in these simulations is significantly positive (0.41 hPa / 50 yr), all the simulated trends are less than the observed trend, indicating that the simulated and observed trends are inconsistent at the 5% level.
Overall we find that the observed Northern Hemisphere circulation trend is inconsistent with simulated internal variability, and that it is also inconsistent with the simulated response to anthropogenic and natural forcing in eight coupled climate models. This is therefore an aspect of large scale climate change for which current climate models are demonstrably inconsistent with observations: If we can understand and correct this bias this will lead to improvements in predictions of future climate change.


16 posted on 11/20/2009 12:25:45 PM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy; Genesis defender; markomalley; scripter; proud_yank; grey_whiskers; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ..
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

Thursday, November 19, 2009

The Blue-Dress Moment May Have Arrived   [Chris Horner]

I am not able to fully digest this at present, catching up with the boys from days away and then up at O-Dark-Thirty for a flight to California for a talk, but check out what Anthony Watts among others have posted.

Now, none of us can attest to the validity of what has been posted on a Russian server (nor can we even be sure of how it was obtained, though it purports to be non-classified data held by a purely public agency subject to freedom of information/transparency laws). But I'm told it's almost 61 megabytes of files, and after a few days of scrutiny appears (to the kind of people who would know) to be legitimate. And very revealing, both the data and what are represented to be comments and admissions by leading lights on Team Alarmist.

If legit, this apparently devastating series of revelations will be very hard for the media to ignore. I didn't say impossible — they're fully vested partners in the global warming industry, because catastrophism sells. But so does scandal, and this appears to be the makings of a very big one. Imagine this sort of news coming in the field of AIDS research. Then reflect that the taxpayer spends more on climate-related research than on the entire suite of AIDS programs, far beyond drug research.


17 posted on 11/20/2009 12:27:23 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison!)
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To: PapaBear3625

I hope you are correct.

I’m going to guess and say that FAR TOO MUCH has been invested for them to ever allow such an enormous scandal to be exposed. They’ve become very good at convincing us, in spite of the obvious, that the sky is green. They’ll find a way to do the same with this.


18 posted on 11/20/2009 12:28:04 PM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: crescen7

It has made it to bittorrent and has gone viral, it is too late for them to stop it.


19 posted on 11/20/2009 12:30:32 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: milwguy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp
“GET RID OF THE INCRIMINATING EMAILS THAT SHOW WE FUDGED AND MANIPULATED DATA! AND TELL SO-AND-SO TO GET RID OF HIS TOO!”

The quote is from another thread. Now that FOX has it, maybe the spread will continue. It's made huge progress from this morning.

20 posted on 11/20/2009 12:32:50 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (The Obamanistas' are out to GIT YOU , and get you they will)
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