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To: demshateGod
So saying an individual is acting like a fool is tantamount to condemning an entire Christian Church to hell based upon them having a different view of Christian theology?

I don't hate you, or condemn you to hell.

The Bible says nothing about a vast population of “hidden” Christians that existed for over a thousand years that outnumbered the Roman and Byzantine Catholic Christian populations.

Once again you provide no source for your contention.

The historic fact is that for the majority of the Christian era, the vast majority of Christians were either Roman or Byzantine Catholic.

222 posted on 11/20/2009 12:51:43 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: allmendream; demshateGod

That’s presuming that they were Christians in the first place.


224 posted on 11/20/2009 12:55:23 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: allmendream

Are you sure the Bible says nothing of them? The church at Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea. There were other churches that predated Constantine’s church. Galatia, Corinth, Macedonia, Rome, Colosae, Jerusalem, Damascus, etc. The churches that existed under the intense persecution of the Pope were after the closed canon. Ah ha! Are you talking about the Apocrypha? I don’t doubt there’s nothing in those books.

It’s hard to find but I’ve given you some already and you rejected it. The truth hurts and religion is a good antidote.


228 posted on 11/20/2009 1:13:00 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: allmendream; demshateGod; count-your-change

You know, for all the evos scorn appeal to authority when it’s perceived as done by creationists, evos sure like to do it themselves.

Your bringing the Pope into every debate about whether Christians can believe in evolution is totally irrelevant to it.

Those outside the Roman Catholic church do not recognize the authority of the pope over anything but the Roman Catholic church. He has no authority over anyone else and nobody else recognizes him speaking on behalf of God.

To non-Catholics, he’s just another man; just as sinful and just an fallible as any other person on this planet, and just as in need of salvation through Christ.

Dragging the pope into these discussions as if his opinion on evolution has any real significance to what others believe is an exercise in futility and a waste of time.

All it’s going to do is start anther *Are Catholics real Christians* argument as it did on this thread, as it has done on every thread on which it’s been pulled in the past, and as I have very little doubt that you knew would happen yet again.

Here’s a newsflash for all the Catholics who think that the Pope’s opinion on evolution means something to non-Catholics..... It doesn’t.

Now if you want to use that as some sort of validation of your belief that you can believe in evolution over what the Bible teaches and still feel like you’re accepted by God, have at it. That’s certainly your prerogative, but don’t expect it to carry any weight with non-Catholics.


230 posted on 11/20/2009 1:18:55 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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