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To: allmendream; demshateGod; count-your-change

You know, for all the evos scorn appeal to authority when it’s perceived as done by creationists, evos sure like to do it themselves.

Your bringing the Pope into every debate about whether Christians can believe in evolution is totally irrelevant to it.

Those outside the Roman Catholic church do not recognize the authority of the pope over anything but the Roman Catholic church. He has no authority over anyone else and nobody else recognizes him speaking on behalf of God.

To non-Catholics, he’s just another man; just as sinful and just an fallible as any other person on this planet, and just as in need of salvation through Christ.

Dragging the pope into these discussions as if his opinion on evolution has any real significance to what others believe is an exercise in futility and a waste of time.

All it’s going to do is start anther *Are Catholics real Christians* argument as it did on this thread, as it has done on every thread on which it’s been pulled in the past, and as I have very little doubt that you knew would happen yet again.

Here’s a newsflash for all the Catholics who think that the Pope’s opinion on evolution means something to non-Catholics..... It doesn’t.

Now if you want to use that as some sort of validation of your belief that you can believe in evolution over what the Bible teaches and still feel like you’re accepted by God, have at it. That’s certainly your prerogative, but don’t expect it to carry any weight with non-Catholics.


230 posted on 11/20/2009 1:18:55 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

That’s an excellent point and worth taking note of the next time I get baited. The Pope’s wrong. Though he can quote all 66 books of the canonized scripture plus the 385 Apocrypha, he’s still wrong on what it says.


232 posted on 11/20/2009 1:24:03 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: metmom
Except that you don't recognize that my argument isn't in any way an appeal to authority, as neither you nor I look to the Pope as a spiritual authority.

I use the example of the Pope to show the blind fanaticism of many of the cretarded set and to do a “reducto ad absurdum” argument, reducing their hateful argument to its (ill)logical conclusion - the Pope is going to Hell.

They say ‘you cannot be a Christian and accept Evolution’ or one of a thousand permutations of the same zealot argument of ‘Agree with me or you are going to go to Hell’.

I point out the Pope's view on evolution and ask them if they consider the Pope a Christian.

If they don't consider the Pope a Christian, and think Pope John Paul II is burning in hell as we speak; well to me (and to many others I imagine) it takes a bit of the sting out of their accusation that I too will share that fate. At least I will be in good company! ;)

234 posted on 11/20/2009 1:25:27 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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