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Creationists are ‘liars’?
CMI ^ | Tas Walker, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/19/2009 3:13:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: metmom

Thanks for the courtesy ping, Metmom. I see the evos are busy skewing and lying again to deflect attention away from the fact that their “theory” is going right down the toilet. Par for the course.


101 posted on 11/19/2009 10:18:36 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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Testing, testing


102 posted on 11/19/2009 10:20:08 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: svcw

You are absolutely right. They have no case, and must always resort to force or fraud to maintain their antiscience, evo-atheist fairytale.


103 posted on 11/19/2009 10:25:34 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Gordon Greene

You know I completely agree with you. Indeed, I’m starting to look at all the abuse coming from the darwin-droolers in a whole new way. The darwiniacs know their evo-atheist creation myth is being flushed down the toilet bowl of science. This makes them very angry, and they don’t like anybody or anything that reminds them of this painful fact...especially if it’s creationists doing the reminding! As such, they will do anything to distract attention—especially their own attention—away from the fact that the HMS Beagle is sinking below the massive, merciless waves of scientific falsification. Thus the keyword attacks...thus the lies, insults, and the changing of the titles of our posts, or the deleting of our replies when we (routinely) get the upper-hand. They are defeated, and they subconsciously know it, but they can’t quite bring themselves to consciously concede defeat, for it cuts right to the core of their man-centered materialistic religion.


104 posted on 11/19/2009 10:39:49 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: CottShop

I just told them the truth about GGG, the person who barged in on their thread. I said he was a YDDC (Yabba Dabba Doo Creationist) and that he and his groupies called anyone that disagreed with them names). I just listed some of them.

As I said, you’re an idiot, you don’t dis the Mods.


105 posted on 11/19/2009 11:35:02 PM PST by Wacka
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To: Wacka

[[As I said, you’re an idiot, you don’t dis the Mods.]]

Says who? Nancies with their tails tucked between their legs?

[[I just told them the truth about GGG,]]

No- you did what you always do- you acted like a kid


106 posted on 11/19/2009 11:45:50 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Misterioso

Oh, I see. You’re one of those people who is not really having the discussion I think we’re having, but instead is just trying to play “Gotcha!” according to some personal scorecard.

Have a nice day.


107 posted on 11/20/2009 4:22:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (Buy me a "Land Shark" and take me to Anguilla.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I love the attitude some evolutionists have toward professional, scientific debate.

There is no "scientific debate" going on. There's science...and there's religion....and the 2 cannot be debated or compared.

Because creationist scientists....

There is no such thing as a creation "scientist"...there are scientists and creationists preverting science to fit a tale in a book.

do not agree with their biased, subjective and unsubstantiated ideas they spit the dummy and call us liars.

Put down the tissue already and call a wahmbulance...when you peddle non-truths about every scientific field you can pervert to fita tale in a book, what DO you call it?

It’s just that Prothero does not like the fact that we don’t agree with his ideas.

No, it's because you pervert all science to fit tales from a book and then claim to be on equal footing such that there should be a debate, and then whine about it when there is no debate like it means something.....because you cannot debate science and religion in this manner. "God did it." isn't an argument.

A favourite lie. That means he thinks creationists use lots of lies.

I wouldn't say "lies" concerning a random YECer spewing nonsense in an on-line forum....uneducated untruths is better. To lie, you have to know WTH you're talking about in the first place and know that what you're saying is untrue, but say it anyway to purposely decieve others. If you're just ignorantly passing on absurdities like Man living with meat 10 ton meat eating dinosaurs, it doesn't fit the definition of a lie.

What Prothero shows here is that Darwin’s theory was accepted in spite of the evidence from the geological record.

What evidence in the geological record contradicts the Theory of Evolution?

....stopped reading the nonsense. Couldn't count the untruths and super-logical tactics quickly enough....when all else fails, generate a false analogy using every day items, make an argument on the false analogy....and it's Miller time.

Maybe I'll read more later if I can stand his "why wont those scientists debate my scientifically-void belief?" whining and need a good laugh.

108 posted on 11/20/2009 5:32:31 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: Wacka; CottShop; GodGunsGuts
I just told them the truth about GGG, the person who barged in on their thread. ....... I just listed some of them.

So you were the one who reported to the mods, eh?

I said he was a YDDC (Yabba Dabba Doo Creationist) and that he and his groupies called anyone that disagreed with them names).

Wacka: As I said, you’re an idiot,

Oh the irony. You're complaining about name calling and reporting it to the mods and here you are...... calling people names.

Hypocrisy personified.

109 posted on 11/20/2009 5:44:33 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: count-your-change
Hardly necessary as I have taken graduate level courses in molecular evolution and obviously understand the subject far better than you.

To claim that cladograms are based upon and confirmed by morphological features alone is to misrepresent the state of the science.

But creationists must misrepresent science as a necessity, as we are seeing.

110 posted on 11/20/2009 6:02:24 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: tacticalogic
When you get back, we’ll see if you’re willing to apply those same arguments to the Gregor Mendel and the field of genetics.

Avoiding the question? You also forget the whole premise of this thread; that Creationist are so called “liars.”

And as for Mendel, I seriously doubt that Mendel would agree with Darwin. in fact, all evidence points to him being a Creationist. So are you agreeing in calling Mendel a liar? And are you going to answer the first question; do you think Darwin was qualified to found the theory of Evolution, a man who was not a scientist but a major on theology?

Please don’t use the usual Evo tactic of avoiding the questions, I have replied to your comments in a straight forward manner.

111 posted on 11/20/2009 6:04:00 AM PST by celmak
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Creationists" should never, ever be called "liars". They are not.
A liar is one who is aware of the facts, thinks you're not, and lies to you about them. Or, doesn't know the facts, but has enough basic knowledge to "make up" other facts that when examined turn out to be false (hence lies).

No, "creationists" are not liars at all!

They are something far, far worse. They are believers. One cannot converse with, speak sensibly to, or have a fact-filled logical arguement with, a believer. The best a person can do with a believer is smile at them sweetly, and ignore their "arguements".

Once a belief is held by a believer (regardless of how groundless, silly, or inane it may be), no amount of facts or truths will change their beliefs. And it is fruitless and a waste of time to attempt to.

112 posted on 11/20/2009 6:13:46 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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To: celmak
Avoiding the question? You also forget the whole premise of this thread; that Creationist are so called “liars.”

I'm simply examining your premise (that Darwin should not be considered a scientist because he studied theology, and did not have degree in a biology). Before I adopt that criteria as being a valid test of whether someone should be considered a scientist or not, I want to examine it on it's merits and see if it holds true. If it does not, then I have to ask why you've chosen to adopt it, and why you think I should.

113 posted on 11/20/2009 6:35:55 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: metmom

If you read the thread you were pinged to by GGG you would see it was the original poster who complained about him.
Here is a chronology.
The thread is talking about string theory until:
#10- The Mod pings GGG and the OP and tells GGG to cut it out
#12- GGG pings his group (including YOU) and complains to the mods (basically, the evos do it so why can’t I)
#13- Deleted by Mod
#14 -The Mod tells GGG to complain on the appropriate thread.
#15- GGG complaining to the Mod again in an inappropriate thread
#16- Mod telling him again to use appropriate thread.
#17- GGG again:
#18- My post- here is the complete text

Sorry for the hijack of your string theory thread.

GodGunsGuts (GGG) is a creationist that spams the news forum with several creationist threads every day.

He believes anything that is not in line with a 6000 year old earth or the rest of the bible to be an atheist, liberal, Nazi, communist, racist, etc (people have been called all of those by GGG or his groupies)plot.

Please ignore him and go back to your interesting discussion.

#19- Deleted by Mod. Was GGG calling me a name.
Back to string theory until :
#23-30- Deleted by Mod (CottShop says it was him yelling at Mod.)
#31- Mod telling GGG to stay off that thread.
#35- Wendy 1946 (Ted) posts an antiscience and racist post which was deleted by the Mod.

As you can see, if you read the thread you were pinged to, I did not call the Mod on GGG. He stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and got a paper on the nose, like a bad dog. I just informed the people there who GGG was.


114 posted on 11/20/2009 6:37:01 AM PST by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts; CottShop; wendy1946

Courtesy ping to post 114.


115 posted on 11/20/2009 6:49:59 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Logic n' Reason; GodGunsGuts
"The best a person can do with a believer is smile at them sweetly, and ignore their "arguements"."

:-)

116 posted on 11/20/2009 7:05:06 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

GMTA....

:-)


117 posted on 11/20/2009 7:09:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


118 posted on 11/20/2009 7:10:31 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Logic n' Reason
Once a belief is held by a believer (regardless of how groundless, silly, or inane it may be), no amount of facts or truths will change their beliefs. And it is fruitless and a waste of time to attempt to.

Evos in a nutshell.

119 posted on 11/20/2009 7:10:42 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tacticalogic; celmak
I'm simply examining your premise (that Darwin should not be considered a scientist because he studied theology, and did not have degree in a biology). Before I adopt that criteria as being a valid test of whether someone should be considered a scientist or not, I want to examine it on it's merits and see if it holds true. If it does not, then I have to ask why you've chosen to adopt it, and why you think I should.

Celmak note.....nail, jello, wall.....

120 posted on 11/20/2009 7:13:00 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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