Church of Scientology accused of torture and forced abortions

timesonline.co.uk ^ | November 19, 2009 | Sophie Tedmanson in Sydney

[MajorThomas]

The Church of Scientology faces the prospect of a police investigation in Australia after being accused of torture and embezzlement and of forcing employees to have abortions.

Nick Xenophon, an independent senator, presented letters to the Australian Parliament from seven former Scientologists which he said showed that the secretive church was a front for physical violence, intimidation and blackmail.

“I am deeply concerned about this organisation and the devastating impact it can have on its followers,” he told the Australian Senate in Canberra. He called for a Senate inquiry.

The State Crime Command of New South Wales police yesterday confirmed that Mr Xenophon had handed over the letters for investigation. Fed- eral police have also been contacted.

Kevin Rudd, the Prime Minister,said that many Australians had “real concerns” about Scientology. “I share some of those concerns,” he added. “We would like to proceed in a cautious and methodical way in examining those matters and then we’ll decide what, if further, parliamentary action is necessary.”

Aaron Saxton, a member of the church in Australia and the US between 1989 and 1996, said in one of the letters that he had participated in the “forced confinement and torture” of others. Other letters described how individuals were pressured to hand over large sums of money to the church, leaving them in poverty.

Carmel Underwood, a former executive director of the Sydney branch of the church, wrote that Scientology executives covered up a case of child molestation and pressured pregnant staff to abort their babies so they could keep working for the church. “There are many who are still suffering and being abused financially, physically and mentally,” she wrote.

[MajorThomas]

Why do we allow this?

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

I did some ‘activism’ over a year ago against this horrible cult. I’m so glad to see any publicity. What is happening in our country, now.....look to this cult as being a ‘microcosm’ as the indicator. It is NO different.

[Cicero]

There were some comments during the Terri Schiavo’s legalized euthanasia to the effect that the Scientologists were a political power in that area and might have been involved with the judge who killed her.

I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it sounded as if it was one possible explanation for what happened.

[KevinDavis]

We have a pesky Constitution that is why..

[SnakeDoctor]

I dated a Scientologist in high school. Cute girl. Bit of a nutjob. But, she was ... topheavy ... so I overlooked the rest. :)

SnakeDoc

[RummyChick]

There are several lawsuits going on right now in the US as it pertains to wages, abortions, etc.
One from this guy
http://blownforgood.com/

[RummyChick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9iPTWPGJc

[daniel1212]

Lawyers. This is not a church, but a sin-dicate, a religious mafia. http://www.watchman.org/Sci/scientologymafia.htm

[hellbender]

This is not a church, but a sin-dicate, a religious mafia.

the secretive church was a front for physical violence, intimidation and blackmail

You could say the same about Islam.

[Neidermeyer]

You could say the same about Islam.

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I'll say it ... Islam is just as phony as Scientology ,, nothing but a framework for conquest and rule by intimidation...

[JSDude1]

So then I want to know who is paying for those weird lying scientology commercials here in the US.

[daniel1212]

Yes, but much of the violence in Islam may be done out of sincere religious belief, from a deluded but sincere founder, which has at its core a codified code which expresses much traditional morality, along with its 7th century theocratic mandate which justifies war by physical means, and that which war is seen to justify. The contrast is that Scientology seeks to build its kingdom by making a pretense of a traditional understanding of religion, begun and built by a man whose express intent was in order to gain money, and mocked traditional morality, with its manifest level of deceit, blackmail, infiltration and overt means control, by such as relative small org., and in such a short period of time resembling the KGB more than any “church,” and which overall puts in a class by itself. Even liberal Wikipedia had to ban them. They dd not like this, for one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

[ResearchMonkey]

You don’t really understand Scientology. While the beliefs of a religion are protected, religious acts are not. Many of Scientology’s practices do pass the moral or ethical muster of reasonable people, in fact much of what is practiced is against the law.

Scientology has their own intelligence agency within their “Office of Special Affairs” (OSA), its called Department 20. Scientology’s Dept-20’s primary purpose is to deny people of their rights guaranteed under the COTUS. This nefarious Dept-20 is responsible for attacking anyone who speaks-out against the “Church”.

I know this to be a fact, I have personally experienced it.

[hellbender]

How many Scientologists are there compared to Muslims, and how many people have they murdered or enslaved compared to Islam? Satan knows that a mixture of truth and falsehood is likely to lure more suckers than pure evil. Many cults espouse some form of "traditional morality," but deny the essential truths of God's plan. I find the idea that Mohammed was "deluded but sincere" to be laughable. He was a warlord who, like his minions, was largely motivated by earthly lusts: sex, power, wealth. His so-called religion was just a cover for conquest. It would be impossible to conjure up a fictional being more opposite to the Lord Jesus than Mohammed. The only historical effect of his "religion" has been opposition to Christianity and Judaism, from which he plagiarized his only halfway decent ideas. Manuel Paleologus said it all:

'Show me just what Mohammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'

[ResearchMonkey]

Scientology claims between 12mil and 8mil parishioners worldwide, they count everyone who has ever bought a book. Our best estimate is less than 100k worldwide. 25-50k in the US and that may be giving them the benefit of the doubt.

How many has people has Scn murdered? —Dunno, there isn’t much that would support any convictions. However there is number of people who have sworn that they were asked to kill for Scn. There are literally hundreds of Scn related deaths that are more than suspicious. Just this week an ex-scientologist gave sworn statement that he lied to authorities to protect Scientology in the tragic deaths of his two daughters. One 1.5y/o fell down a flight of stairs and died, the other toddler died from digesting the toxic chemicals used in the “purification rundown.” — this is NOT unique in Scientology, it is part of the practice.

Scientology IS evil, and DOES enslave people, here in the United States. As I learned more about them I was simply amazed that they have been able to operate here. Lying is ecclesiastical doctrine in Scientology, they even train parishioners to lie under pressure.

It’s a very dangerous cult that pulls you in and destroys you, you become literally enslaved. Many people have lost their children to Scientology. They are every bit as evil Islamo-facism, maybe even more so.

I hope to bring information to my conservative brethren. The next few BIG battles with Scientology will be here in the US. We want to educate people about the dangers, about the truth, that Scientology has kept secret for so long.

L Ron Hubbard on Alister Crowley >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3yfsbi4L70

[ResearchMonkey]

Every word of LRH is doctrine and infallible. This is a clip from one of the higher level official teachings (which you must pay for)

L Ron Hubbard on Christ >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMJUDkDWqc&NR=1

It took me over six months to digest enough about Scientology to understand just how evil they are.

[hellbender]

12 million Scientologists? The number of Muslims is 100 times as large. No one questions that Scientology is an evil cult, but quantitatively it is trivial compared to Islam. Scientology does not control entire nations, some of them with nuclear weapons. It does not control billions of dollars worth of vital resources, as does Saudi Arabia.

[ResearchMonkey]

It’s true what you say about Islam, but Scientology is based here, in the US. The valuable resources Scientology has its eye on is your children, our children on our soil.

The largest infiltration of the United states Government, Scientology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

Scientology’s goal is to become the government at all levels. L.Ron Hubbard, Philadelphia Doctorate course (an expensive lecture) >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYj0UkcBADo

^ his very own words.

“Palin adviser once planned scientology PAC” >>>> http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0309/Palin_advisor_once_planned_scientology_PAC.html

Scientology regardless of what the Politico says, there have been PAC’s created based upon the work of John P. Coale. Scientology IS working on bringing Governments in allegiance with them. Colombia is one where the military and government is being fed Scientology. The same is happening in Africa.

I’m not saying Islam is not a problem. I’m saying there is something else here at home worthy of notice.

The SCOTUS declared: Scientology should not get tax-exemption as a quid-pro-quo business. Via blackmail and dirty trick the IRS overruled the SCOTUS — We are working to get their tax exemption removed and their practices brought to light.

[daniel1212]

The key aspect is the degree and type of manipulation Scientology exerts over its members, as well as the level of criminal activity in proportion to its size. This is not minimizing the wickedness of Islam and its manipulation, but if Scientology had a quarter of the members Islam does then the world would be a Scientology police state.