Navy finds lax behavior aboard sub in collision (USS Hartford)

AP ^ | November 18, 2009 | NA

[buccaneer81]

Navy finds lax behavior aboard sub in collision

GROTON, Conn. (AP) -- The crew aboard a U.S. submarine made dozens of errors before the vessel collided with an American warship in the Persian Gulf, an accident that exposed lax leaders who tolerated sleeping, slouching and a radio room rigged with music speakers, a Navy review found.

[buccaneer81]

Career killer.

[Tijeras_Slim]

Should be.

[1776 Reborn]

Next assignment, Capt of the Minnow.

[Pessimist]

Guess when the correct the problem, it will be “Ex-Lax” behavior.

[thefactor]

they tolerated sleeping?!

i assume they mean sleeping on post.

[Mmogamer]

Thats a retirement there... wow. I bet that fellow was like *oh fudge* when they hit that ship heh.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Ouch!

[buccaneer81]

i assume they mean sleeping on post.

Correct.

[org.whodat]

[6SJ7]

i assume they mean sleeping on post.

I've been listening to an interesting podcast called "The History of Rome". Discipline in the Roman army was, to say the least, strict; which is why they won so many battles. One of the podcasts mentioned that falling asleep while on guard duty in the Roman army was punishable by death. And not just a nice quick death, but the offender was then stoned to death by his own troops.

[rlmorel]

"...The submarine had five known "sleepers," or sailors who would routinely nod off on watch..."

Good God. Are they crazy? I was in an attack squadron during the Seventies when I would think standards would have been even more lax, and I was petrified that I would nod off during mid watch ON A BASE ON A SUNDAY WITH NO FLIGHT OPS!

Maybe it is just me, but I can't see someone being on an attack sub, in the Persian Gulf, nodding off while on watch. Just can't see it.

On a related note, when I was on the Kennedy, they had a guy standing midwatch on the port quarter, and he fell asleep. His buddy came to talk to him, saw he was asleep, and dreamed up a great prank. He snuck over on his hands and knees, tied his buddy's shoelaces together, then went back into the ship and projecting his voice through the hatch said "Man Overboard! Man Overboard!" He said it just loud enough for his buddy to hear through his sound powered phones, and he leaped to his feet falling on his face in the process.

The only problem was someone up on the catwalk above heard the Man Overboard and raised the alarm. The entire task force awoke in the middle of the night and began recovery procedures.

Both sailors were court martialed.

[blue-duncan]

“Navy finds lax behavior aboard sub in collision (USS Hartford)”

That’s nothing, they should see the behavior of the officials of the City of Hartford.

[iowamark]

The Hartford's commanding officer, Cmdr. Ryan Brookhart, was relieved of his duties after the accident. He could not immediately be located for comment Wednesday.

[buccaneer81]

That’s nothing, they should see the behavior of the officials of the City of Hartford.

No doubt. I lived in Vernon 20 years ago, when the mayor of Hartford was a crazy black woman who wore whacky hats.

[buccaneer81]

I always wondered what the Skipper and Gilligan served for lunch on those trips...

[A.A. Cunningham]

090521-N-8467N-002 GROTON, Conn. (May 21, 2009) Line handlers aboard the Los Angeles-class fast-attack submarine USS Hartford (SSN 768) cast lines ashore upon the ships return home to Submarine Base New London after a month-long surface transit from Bahrain. Hartford sustained major damage to her sail in a March 20 collision with the amphibious transport dock ship USS New Orleans (LPD 18) in the Strait of Hormuz. (U.S. Navy photo by John Narewski/Released)

090426-N-8053S-014 MANAMA, Bahrain (April 26, 2009) An opening cut by divers around a 16 by 18 foot hole before dry-docking the amphibious transport dock ship USS New Orleans (LPD 18) is visible while evaluating the ship. New Orleans was damaged during a collision with the Los Angeles class attack submarine USS Hartford (SSN 768) in the Strait of Hormuz March 20, 2009. The ship arrived to the Arab Shipbuilding and Repair Yard dry-dock facility April 25 to repair the damage. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communications Specialist 2nd Class D. Keith Simmons/Released)

090321-N-9909C-211 BAHRAIN (March 21, 2009) The Los Angeles-class attack submarine USS Hartford (SSN 768) pulls into Mina Salman pier in Bahrain where U.S. Navy engineers and inspection teams will assess and evaluate damage that resulted from a collision with the amphibious transport dock ship USS New Orleans (LPD 18) in the Strait of Hormuz March 20. Overall damage to both ships is being evaluated. The incident remains under investigation. Hartford is deployed to the U.S. 5th fleet area of responsibility to support maritime security operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Cmdr. Jane Campbell/Released)

[edcoil]

Gosh, speakers in a radio room ... There are speaker through the boat. Sonar and Con control the boat not the radio room.

Even at port and starboard watches we never slept because there is always something going on during your watch. If not doing your work, there are drills and younger sailors trying to get “qualified” with you all the time.

The con screwed up and careers ended. Blaming lax crew not the officer of the deck.

[edcoil]

Gosh, speakers in a radio room ... There are speaker through the boat. Sonar and Con control the boat not the radio room.

Even at port and starboard watches we never slept because there is always something going on during your watch. If not doing your work, there are drills and younger sailors trying to get “qualified” with you all the time.

The con screwed up and careers ended. Blaming lax crew not the officer of the deck.

[1776 Reborn]

I like the pic....

[Little Bill]

Ping t your thing.