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The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Economic Recovery
American Thinker ^ | Feb. 7, 2009 | Nancy Coppock

Posted on 11/17/2009 6:45:05 PM PST by GeezerConservative

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To: GeezerConservative

I know of one antidote to the Cloward/Piven stategy. Armed revolution led by the right-wing.


21 posted on 11/17/2009 8:06:42 PM PST by Signalman
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To: MHGinTN

We need to make clear to whoever is housing Soros that they are subject to bad times.


22 posted on 11/17/2009 8:07:01 PM PST by txhurl (It's only a matter of time before FreeRepublic has this fraud's scalp on our lodge pole.)
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To: MHGinTN
Someone noticed the new "union" workers at her mother's nursing home in Maryland, after the Obambi election. Things went from spotlessly clean, to dead flies lurking in every corner, and workers telling them, "that's not MY job."

Gotta love that hope and change.

Compassion is "above their pay grade."

23 posted on 11/17/2009 8:17:58 PM PST by elk
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To: wmfights
But where we are headed if the elections don't turn this around is a court case by a state seeking to secede.

That was my thought. One weakness in the Cloward-Piven strategy is that it appears to fail to take into account balkanization...which sounds much like that Russian economist (?) predicted. But like you, I suspect before the final collapse Obama and his gang are working towards some states will attempt to get off the ride.

24 posted on 11/17/2009 8:26:36 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: antidemoncrat
give amnesty to the 12 - 20 million illegals

give amnesty to 12 - 20 million of the current population of illegals (Amnesty will double or triple whatever number is already here in a short time). I heard Napolitano say something that suggested to me that the administration might just try to do Amnesty by fiat without going through Congress.

25 posted on 11/17/2009 8:36:18 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: GeezerConservative

bttt


26 posted on 11/17/2009 8:38:05 PM PST by Jacksonian Grouch (God has granted us Freedom; we owe Him our courage in return)
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To: Bobkk47
I know of one antidote to the Cloward/Piven stategy. Armed revolution led by the right-wing.

Many of us are ready.

27 posted on 11/17/2009 10:01:25 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64
Armed revolution is no longer a viable option because there is nothing to revolt against ... we the people have allowed the debt load to go far beyond managable. The time to use armed revolt was when JOhnson and the demcorats instituted the dumping of all collected revenue into a general fund, from which the legislators--demoncrats and repupicans--wrote checks until the funds were depleted then paid for things by depositing IOUs for funds ultimately borrowed from creditors rather than the people.

To start shooting, now the targets would be ACORN and SEIU employees. That's not revolution, that's insane civil war. The stimulus and tarp were aimed at saving the debt-laden aspects the democrat fascists value as their muscle. The healthcare bill to nationalize the healthcare industry is designed to remove the debt to health expenses unions like SEIU have incurred while spending 400 million of their members' monies to get the democrats elected to do this very thing, 'spread the debt around'.

The cap and tax bill will be the mule pulling the democrats' socialist wagon. By raising revenues through taxing every production and use of energy, everyone will be herded to pay the debt load which has created the fascist state where ACORN cheats elections and unions muscle industries into promising things which the industry cannot possibly sustain with a global disparity of wages such as we see and now Andy Stern and Wade Rathke are exploiting, globally, not just in the U.S. anymore.

28 posted on 11/18/2009 7:18:20 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: highlander_UW
One weakness in the Cloward-Piven strategy is that it appears to fail to take into account balkanization...

Exactly!

The other event that it doesn't account for is increasingly that balkanization is breaking down into geographical regions. Not to say that there aren't conservatives everywhere and vice versa, but the mix is becoming less even. We really are down to very few "moderate" Pubs in the northeast, rust belt and left coast.

sounds much like that Russian economist (?) predicted.

When I first saw the prediction of the breakup of the USA I thought that guy was nuts. As time passes it doesn't seem so crazy. The radical leftists don't understand that there is a sizable number of us who will not live under the tyranny of a fascist regime.

But like you, I suspect before the final collapse Obama and his gang are working towards some states will attempt to get off the ride.

I think it will be pursued in peaceful ways. Through the courts and through legislation. I think it will be a longer process then just during the 0 admn. I think we are at the front end of this and it may be as long as 30-50 yrs with some ebb and flow but I don't see a USA remaining united.

29 posted on 11/18/2009 8:32:46 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: GeezerConservative

God bless Glenn Beck for keeping this on the front burner, and attempting to awaken America to “their” game plan...


30 posted on 11/18/2009 8:43:35 AM PST by wigswest
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To: wigswest

Amen


31 posted on 11/18/2009 9:42:12 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: wmfights
When I first saw the prediction of the breakup of the USA I thought that guy was nuts. As time passes it doesn't seem so crazy.

I had the exact same reaction...but like you, it no longer looks like the musings of a complete nutcase. I highly doubt he had the breakdown correct, but predicting the breakup itself when he did would be notable. Hopefully America wakes up and better and more adult heads get put into power. There may be some who bluster about who owns the guns, or who is better prepared for chaos, but the fact is, that chaos would be very ugly for all involved.

32 posted on 11/18/2009 9:43:53 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: highlander_UW
I highly doubt he had the breakdown correct, but predicting the breakup itself when he did would be notable.

I agree.

I think the south and especially TX is where it's begining. Gov. Richardson brought up the topic of seceeding and has pointed out the socialist direction of the fed govt. The fact he wasn't laughed off the podium and discussion followed indicates a ground swell slowly building.

Hopefully America wakes up and better and more adult heads get put into power.

I don't see it happening long term. We have a majority of people who don't pay income tax and expect to receive benefits without paying for them. We may see a resurgence of conservatism based on social policy, but the long term fiscal dependance will win out.

There may be some who bluster about who owns the guns, or who is better prepared for chaos, but the fact is, that chaos would be very ugly for all involved.

I don't believe it will get to that. Liberals only fight when their sons and daughters aren't at risk. The US military will not fire on American citizens and conservatives will not shoot at the police or military.

I think it's more likely that through protests, legal action and defiance that the libs will just say it's not worth the trouble. Once one state opts out the adjoining states will be able to and eventually the country will split.

33 posted on 11/18/2009 10:20:00 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: GeezerConservative
If highly educated and trained workers continue to lose jobs and business falters as a whole, where will these jobless workers go?

According to the Free Trader/Global Competition crowd, they will settle for lower-paid "service jobs" or go on the Dole. Of course, with lower pay, they won't be able to buy much. However, they can alsways go into debt to maintain the facade of a Middle Class existence - until the credit runs out or get to Critical Overload. Oh well, "you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet."

34 posted on 11/18/2009 11:14:06 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: wmfights

BTTT for your post.


35 posted on 11/18/2009 4:42:50 PM PST by txhurl (Go Rogue or Go home! Status Quoerers are going DOWN,)
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To: arthurus

I guess this is what happens when a bunch of people that are determined to fundamentally change our country occupy the presidents administration. I wonder what happen to the most transparent administration we were promised?


36 posted on 11/18/2009 7:04:47 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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