Posted on 11/17/2009 12:18:02 PM PST by presidio9
OTOH, gay men, who have a life expectancy of 42 years, due to the same issues of alcoholism, drug use, suicide, suceptibility to fatal STDs, smoking, and high risk taking, tend to be disproportionately better insured.
Just playing devil’s advocate here.
Of course, gay men only make up about 1% of the adult population, so there’s that to consider as well.
These are the same folks who are not going to pay for insurance under any circumstances.
GSW parients with no insurance die more frequently then those who do. And there is a down side how?
So they lumped together car crashes, falls and gunshot wounds and then pretended to adjust the data to "take into account the severity of the injuries"?
This is probably how they fudged the data, by purporting to equate a category like "gunshot wounds" with "automobile crashes" as equally severe.
So the problem of the gang-banging underclass becomes a problem of "lack of health insurance" and "not enough money spent on hospitals treating them."
And if we just pass nationalized health care, then "severe" inner-city gunshot victims will have the same survival rate as "severe" suburban auto crash victims! It's magic!
Yeah; from gunshot wounds, AIDS, STD’s, and a host of other SELF-INDULGENT/DEPENDENCY LIFESTYLE CHOICES that these parasites make.
Well said.
Might be some merit to it.
Don’t you think there’d be a strong correlation between
engaging in risky behavior, say, dealing drugs or gang-bangin’,
and not being responsible enough to buy insurance?
The “researcher” cited as a senior author of the study is an advocate of Obamacare and a talked about replacement for Teddy’s seat.
http://www.techbanyan.com/5118/dr-atul-gawande-sen-ted-kennedy-seat/
I’m not wearing my glasses today, and first glance the title read:
Uninsured Twice as Likely to Die on FR.
Very well said and I’ll add illegals to your list
Trying to simplify cause and effect does not work. So many factors.
do people not get the whole correlation/causation thing? maybe people without insurance are more likely to not know how to drive, drive cars that are less safe, and generally have higher levels of destructive behaviors. sheesh!
Sounds like most of these patients were ambulance patients with not much choice about going to the ER. They were trauma, not medical so accumulated problems isn’t what got them there.
Uninsured patients MIGHT if they are alert and talking delay refuse to go to the hospital because they can’t afford it, and then be in worse shape when they do show up. Last week I had a patient who had a first-time seizure a few hours after an auto accident. He was alert and oriented by the time we got there and refusing to go in. Major persuasion and pressure by EMTs, medics, cops, his wife finally wore him down but here was a hard-working family man putting off an evaluation he needed because he was so worried about the money.
Twice as likely? Really.
I guess there’s nothing else for us to do than to turn the health care industry over to government bureaucrats because we all know how well that works out.
LOL!
I doubt anyone except the most foolish will take this “study” seriously.
Substance-abusing street people and gang bangers don’t do as well as average people after traumatic injury. Who would have thunk it!
well now that you put it that way ... then it’s quite possible.
It will be noted that there is a law requiring ER's to take injured patients who show up for treatment.
However, there are also perfectly legal ways to dodge that law (I never heard of "patient dumping" before the law was passed). Hence the solution creates the problem.
Don't recall this being much of a problem before that law was passed in the '80's.
Of the 50 million people uninsured in the US, half are twice as likely to live in Arizona’s 15th district and half are twice as likely to be illegal aliens.
The other half are twice as likely to not exist...
But three times as likely to have voted for Obama.
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