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To: SecondAmendment

Oft-repeated, but a false rumor started by the Russians who claimed a prototype Lavi was moved to China.

I am a former IAF officer, and I was involved in the Lavi project.

First an appeal to common sense: look at the J-9, which predates Lavi. The evoltution is clear.

Second, the whole prototype-in-China business is easily refuted. When the Lavi was cancelled on 1987, a total of five airframes had been built. Prototypes #1 and #2 were completed prototypes, while #3, #4, and #5 were incomplete (#4 and #5 being little more than the basic frame).

Parts from unit #1 and #2 were pulled to complete unit #3 as the private-venture technology demonstrator (TD) aircraft.

#3 remains in the IAI hanger, and I’ve seen it myself.

The gutted unit #2 was put in the Israeli Air Force museum at the Hatzerim Airbase for static display, and the rest (gutted #1 and #4, & #5) were parted out.

That said, there WAS a technology transfer, but NOT of American technology.

Certain people ILLEGALLY sold elements of the Israeli-made ELM-2021 radar system, which can simultaneously track six air targets and lock on to the four most threatening targets for destruction.

They were fired/prosecuted, as appropriate.

This illegally-sold radar system probably has made its way into a number of Chinese and other enemy countries.


28 posted on 11/17/2009 12:05:11 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

I am encouraged by your reply.

As I alluded to in my post, it would not make any sense for Israel to double cross the US in this way.

I believe (not 100%) that I first read about this issue in Bill Gertz “Betrayal”, and have since ran in to news about this issue from time to time.

Thanks for the information.


31 posted on 11/17/2009 12:18:08 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic one Post at a Time)
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