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Fighting the Taliban from half a world away (Congressman "in on a few kills")
The Times-Tribune (Scranton, PA) ^ | 11/16/2009 | BORYS KRAWCZENIUk

Posted on 11/16/2009 6:23:24 PM PST by Born Conservative

These drones are no bees, but they can sting, and one of their operators is a local congressman who says they are integral to the war effort in Afghanistan and Iraq.

U.S. Rep. Chris Carney, also known as Navy Reserve Cmdr. Chris Carney, is one of the military's remote operators of unmanned Predator, Reaper and Global Hawk drones that fly and spy over the Middle East countries.

"I want to be on the cutting edge of our national defense and our defense technology," Mr. Carney said. "And this is it."

The drones look like smaller, thinner planes.

From thousands of feet in the air, they often just hover a day or more without refueling. Their high-resolution cameras silently send live video to their U.S. military operators who warn ground troops in Afghanistan and Iraq about the presence of enemy combatants who could be planting improvised explosive devices, known as IEDs.

Operators such as Mr. Carney manage them through remote controls from thousands of miles away in a room at Langley Air Force Base in Langley, Va. These remote controls are far more sophisticated than but not entirely unlike the push-button devices a pro football fan uses to switch between games on a Sunday afternoon.

The difference is changing channels never killed anyone.

Predators and Reapers sometimes fire deadly missiles at enemy combatants or terrorists in Afghanistan, Iraq and sometimes Pakistan. In August, a CIA drone killed Baitullah Mehsud, the leader of the Taliban there and a major suspect in the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

Commander Carney was not in on that one, but he has been in on a few kills.

He trained to command the drones in 2007, and has been helping their operation in Afghanistan and Iraq during his two or three yearly, two-week reserve deployments since, most recently last month. He is the first Navy drone commander.

He will only say he has been in the chain of command when Predators and Reapers struck and killed, including last month.

"Yes, we hit people and vehicles. We hit bad guys," he said.

He did not push the button releasing the missiles. He would not confirm giving the order to fire.

"As a mission commander, I get to direct the birds," was the way he put it.

The drones figure into an ongoing debate within the Obama administration between supporters of deploying more American troops to Afghanistan and supporters of relying more on counterinsurgency units aided by drones. Vice President Joseph R. Biden is among those said to favor more counterinsurgency and reliance on drones.

"I don't think they can take over everything, but they certainly provide the intelligence and the surveillance that is required to make good decisions," said Mr. Carney, D-10, Dimock Township.

Critics say CIA drones have killed innocent people, including children. Despite the controversy, Mr. Carney defends their use, making clear he has never been involved in a drone attack that hit civilians.

"There is a pretty robust checklist that you have to go through to begin what is called the kill chain," he said. "It's real life. And that's the thing you always have to remember, even though you're on the other side of the Earth from where the actual action is occurring."

Without drones, the U.S. would have to deploy thousands more troops, he said.

"You have to have boots on the ground," Mr. Carney said. "You can't hold ground from the air. But that said, the Predator and the Reaper are extremely valuable weapons. They are an intelligence-gathering system and a weapons system all wrapped into one. They prevent the Taliban (and al-Qaida) from sleeping well at night. They don't know from one instant to the next whether they are going to be struck."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: chriscarney; drones; taliban
Chris Carney, "Blue Dog Democrat", trying to get back in the good graces of his mostly-conservative district after voting for the Socialized Medicine Healthcare bill?
1 posted on 11/16/2009 6:23:30 PM PST by Born Conservative
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To: Erik Latranyi; Tribune7

Ping


2 posted on 11/16/2009 6:25:59 PM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Born Conservative

The ultimate video game.


3 posted on 11/16/2009 6:31:50 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Born Conservative

Future war criminal!


4 posted on 11/16/2009 6:32:38 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


5 posted on 11/16/2009 7:48:21 PM PST by Tribune7 (God bless Carrie Prejean)
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To: Born Conservative

This man is a toad and a greasy politician. Good luck with the spin that your a hero.


6 posted on 11/16/2009 8:40:56 PM PST by Lazlo in PA
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To: Born Conservative
I will say that some kids get all the cool toys.
7 posted on 11/16/2009 8:43:51 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Born Conservative

Carney is a decent military man and has brought the bacon home to the district.

Unfortunately, he is available for Queen Pelosi when she needs the vote.

This district is far too conservative to support Chris Carney. We should have a true, constitutional conservative in that seat.


8 posted on 11/17/2009 2:35:49 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
"...not entirely unlike the push-button devices a pro football fan uses to switch between games on a Sunday afternoon. ..."

A remote? I have heard of such an invention.

9 posted on 11/17/2009 7:17:50 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: Lazlo in PA

This guy’s a rat, and that raises flags right there.


10 posted on 11/17/2009 7:21:07 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: I Buried My Guns
A remote? I have heard of such an invention.

How do you tell a person's age?

Young = "Where's the remote?"

Old = "Where's the clicker?"

11 posted on 11/17/2009 7:26:07 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Born Conservative

Actually killing by remote control is nothing new. It was first done in August 1997, when Queen Elizabeth pressed a button in Buckingham Palace and blew out the tires on a limo in Paris.


12 posted on 11/17/2009 7:32:30 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("Everything's a lie, and that's a fact.")
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To: Erik Latranyi

If we had a decent GOP candidate he would be shown the door quickly. But thats a big IF after the guys from the 08 primary.


13 posted on 12/22/2009 5:57:59 PM PST by MiltonFriedmanFan
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