Dude you are not going to have it both ways. You can’t call Gen X’ers worthless then get mad when I said the Army of the 1970’s was a joke. Most members of the military at that time know it had become a joke. Drug use was widespread, discipline was crap, hell I seen 70’s military with sideburns and fairly long hair. Desertions and crime was common.
Yes there was plenty of good Baby Boomer leaders who shaped up the raw material but the raw material of the 70’s was the drug using f*ck authority generation while that of the 80’s was much more respectful of authority and could be molded into a quality fighting force.
What the hell is up with you Hippies anyway? I see veterans events and the old World War II and Korean War vets are usually a bunch of clean cut types and the Gulf War and Desert Storm vets usually clean shaven. Too many of the Vietnam Vets look like hobo’s wearing old ripped army fatigues. Show some respect for the uniform and yourselves.
The boomers aren’t the first generation to fight in the jungles. The people spitting on them was other boomers not mine. Heck when did America start showing respect to the Vietnam Vets? When my generation came of age. But judging from people like yourself maybe we was naive.
By the way Gramps in terms of clueless if you was really in the I.T. field did you noticed that most employers and software businesses prefer to hire young workers vs those old Baby Boomers you think is so much better. I am sure you can share war stories of how much tougher it was to program a reel to reel mainframe using COBOL vs. some of these newfangled PC’s.
>>Dude you are not going to have it both ways. You can’t call Gen X’ers worthless then get mad when I said the Army of the 1970’s was a joke. Most members of the military at that time know it had become a joke. Drug use was widespread, discipline was crap, hell I seen 70’s military with sideburns and fairly long hair. Desertions and crime was common.<<
I stand corrected — today’s army — mostly Gen Y BTW but run by Boomers — is the greatest fighting force the world hs ever seen. Once a man or woman puts on the uniform they case to be a Gen-anything. They are a soldier and deserve nothing but the highest praise.
>>Yes there was plenty of good Baby Boomer leaders who shaped up the raw material but the raw material of the 70’s was the drug using f*ck authority generation while that of the 80’s was much more respectful of authority and could be molded into a quality fighting force.<<
You seem to be confused on your timelines. Right now the armed forces are run by Boomers.
>>What the hell is up with you Hippies anyway? I see veterans events and the old World War II and Korean War vets are usually a bunch of clean cut types and the Gulf War and Desert Storm vets usually clean shaven. Too many of the Vietnam Vets look like hobo’s wearing old ripped army fatigues. Show some respect for the uniform and yourselves.<<
I have no idea what is up with them. The stupidest looking thin in the world is a bald dude with a gray ponytail. Has nothing to do with any Conservative boomers I know.
>>The boomers aren’t the first generation to fight in the jungles. The people spitting on them was other boomers not mine. Heck when did America start showing respect to the Vietnam Vets? When my generation came of age. But judging from people like yourself maybe we was naive.<<
Whatever.
>>By the way Gramps in terms of clueless if you was really in the I.T. field did you noticed that most employers and software businesses prefer to hire young workers vs those old Baby Boomers you think is so much better. I am sure you can share war stories of how much tougher it was to program a reel to reel mainframe using COBOL vs. some of these newfangled PC’s.<<
Well, sonny, you are wrong. I can get a roomful of Chinese or Indian developers for $5 an hour and their code is acceptable. It is all in knowing what to tell them to do (we call that “writing specifications”).
Those of us who know IT keep our toolkit sharp. I was using PCs in business environments when they were S100 Bus systems running CP/M. I then implemented IBM PCs and all the clones through all the OS’, network topologies and protocols, all the while developing and designing ERPs. Trust me, Payroll hasn’t changed much (although the tools to produce it have as has the way it is approached), nor has A=L+SE changed a whit. But to understand the implications takes experience.
I have been in the field for 30 years and I can guarantee we don’t need kids who know how to write C++ — those are a dime a dozen. But I have yet to meet a kid wh understands how a testing cycle is designed and performed, how to manage risk when going live nor how to establish proper production control integrity procedures. Your response tells me you are, at best, just a dumb coder like your contemporaries.