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1 posted on 11/15/2009 4:08:12 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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I hope he doesn't visit someplace where it is “protocol” to lie fully prostate when greeting the emperor.
86 posted on 11/15/2009 5:10:44 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

It’s not a US protocol, but it’s a protocol.

The “Emperor” of Japan should be required to kiss the bare ass of visiting US presidents.


94 posted on 11/15/2009 5:26:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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I guess every other leader that has visited just didn’t realize what the right protocol was and now that we have zer0 he can educate the other world leaders on proper protocol. Aren’t we glad that we are the only country that has a leader that is so “up” on the latest protocol?


95 posted on 11/15/2009 5:29:31 PM PST by leapfrog0202
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I was under the impression that he only bowed once. Just watched the Breitbart video and was stunned. Zero resembles one of these:

Without a teleprompter, this guy is so clueless.

97 posted on 11/15/2009 5:31:47 PM PST by Nasher
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bow now kowtow


106 posted on 11/15/2009 5:53:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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It is protocol for the Hussein Admin. to be submissive to other world leaders. That’s the way they see it, anyway.


117 posted on 11/15/2009 6:20:17 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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“A superior addressing an inferior will generally only nod the head slightly (some may not bow at all), while an inferior will bend forward slightly from the waist.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowing


120 posted on 11/15/2009 6:31:33 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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The leader of a nation is equal to other leaders by virtue of their status. None of them should be bowing.

Obama appears to be overwhelmed by the international stage. I prefer presidents who know everyone is equal in God’s eyes. Obama’s actions indicate otherwise.


127 posted on 11/15/2009 6:54:37 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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The White House Defends Obama's Bow to Japanese Emperor as 'Protocol'

What a lies they have to concoct in order to defend the indefensible! Obama isn't following protocol, but rather smashing it to smithereens!

The protocol has been the same since the founding of the American republic. Every child educated in the United States should have been taught about it. NO AMERICAN BOWS TO ROYALTY OR NOBILITY OF ANY NATION. The reason is very simple: After gaining our independence from the British monarchy in 1776, we continue to show the world that we are a free people, not subservient to any monarch or noble anywhere!

128 posted on 11/15/2009 7:05:50 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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It IS protocol. Assuming that the leader of your country is surrendering to the Emperor of Japan.


130 posted on 11/15/2009 7:12:30 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Why buy health insurance at all if you can't be turned down for any pre-existing conditions?)
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See the Politico report on this. The unnamed "senior administration official" merely asserted that the President "observes protocol," and then went on to blah-blah-blah about how Dr. Utopia had magically restored U.S. credibility and relations with Japan. He didn't say the bow was protocol, or even directly acknowledge the bow happened.

Gibbsy's still going to have to address this, IF any White House newshole gets up the courage to ask. Be mildly interesting to see how he tap dances around this. Probably misdirection, e.g. attack the reporter for pursuing a story that isn't "real news." Say something about tabloids. Etc.

And the press corps will, in the end, just accept it.

137 posted on 11/15/2009 7:42:00 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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I hate this Kenyan bastard. Not like I hate Brussels sprouts...not like I hate the New England Patriots...not like I hate getting up in the dark to get through TSA before an early flight. It’s a Biblical hatred.


138 posted on 11/15/2009 7:43:50 PM PST by clintonh8r (Jumping to conclusions...it's what I do.)
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Easy enough to confirm. Does anyone have this book at their local library?

http://www.usaprotocol.com/

PROTOCOL: 25th Anniversary Edition
The Complete Handbook of Diplomatic, Official and Social Usage
Written by Mary Jane McCaffree, Pauline Innis and Richard M. Sand, Esquire

PROTOCOL is used at the White House and the State Department. Multi-National Corporations, Government circles, Embassies and Public Relations Offices consider PROTOCOL their Bible.

PROTOCOL is considered to be THE guide diplomatic protocol, social etiquette, and official use of protocol in both public and private affairs.


139 posted on 11/15/2009 7:44:57 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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148 posted on 11/15/2009 8:04:54 PM PST by devolve ( . "I would caution you against jumping to conclusions!" - Barack Hasan Osama Junior - mmm mmm mmm)
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The bow in Japan is not , contrary to Western conventional thought, a gesture of submission. According to Japanese tradition, the human body has three “zones” . Heaven ( from the shoulders up) Man (from Shoulders to hip)and Earth ( from the hips down.) When one bows in Japan, one offers the highest of the body in respect, the heaven aspect. Obama is indeed as you say, prostrating himself, and Akihito Samma, is not bowing even a little, either because he i s surprised, or because he does not respect Obama.The real key is the empress, who is not bowing even a little.

They do not respect Obama enough to bow even a little.This is done with feeling in Japan, and is spontaneous.It is a thing involving a type of perception very different to Westernern cultural ettiquette. A genuine bow can actually be felt in the heart. And Akihito knows this bow is all show.No heart. That is likely why he does not return Obama’s bow, even a little.Nor does the Empress. Obama , intent on being the skillful inter cultural president, shows here that he knows nothing of Japanese culture.Before one bows there is a brief glance at the eyes of the person to whom one bows, a spark. This is what Obama is missing, or they both would be bowing back.

Secondly, Obama should have bowed before he shook hands, in the proper way, with his hands on his upper thigh, and he should not have bowed so deeply, because he is not a Japanese subject... a slow respectful bow of 45 to 50 degrees would have been required in his case, if Obama knew the correct protocol, which he obviously does not. So it is a false submissive bow of a man who has little honor in the way of Japanese thinking. A man who wants something. A man not to be trusted.

Obama did not fool the Imperial couple even one little bit, and they are strained to remain polite, humoring Obama as it were. Patronizing conduct gets one no where fast in Japan. Generally Japanese folks know a genuine bow from a false one by the way it feels, a form of perception which few Westerners experience, but still some do.

Obama has idiots for protocol officers, or alteratively, he did not listen to what they had to say about it.

Obama would have been much better off simply shaking hands, instead of this empty, false bow, completely off in its lack of genuiness. The bow of a snake.

I predict that Obama will make little progress with his diplomatic agenda in Japan, he will give much, and receive little in return.

Cross thread reference, mega data on the wider strategic implications of this botched “bow”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2386153/posts


150 posted on 11/15/2009 8:17:07 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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Obama is an embarrassment to the word embarrassment.


154 posted on 11/15/2009 8:40:43 PM PST by taraytarah (Our Constitution must be defended and protected from all domestic enemies.)
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155 posted on 11/15/2009 8:41:17 PM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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Etiquette in Japan

Generally speaking, an inferior bows longer, more deeply and more frequently than a superior. A superior addressing an inferior will generally only nod the head slightly, while some superiors may not bow at all and an inferior will bend forward slightly from the waist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_Japan


156 posted on 11/15/2009 8:41:28 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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Keep talking, idiots. This bunch has the audacity of total morons.


161 posted on 11/15/2009 8:58:38 PM PST by dr_who
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This clown has done more damage to the Black community than the KKK, the white supremacists or any of those other whackadoodle nut groups could ever do. Obama just needs to shut up, hide in the Oval Office and wait out his singular term.
162 posted on 11/15/2009 9:00:38 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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