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To: livius
Did anybody expect otherwise?

I thought that we should have worked two years ago with Bush to reach an acceptable arrangement on this, but the problem was that the left fanned hatred of Bush to such an extent that there was going to be no way to deal with this until a Dem got into office. And everybody knew that a Dem was going to win the next election, so all they had to do was prevent any action under Bush and wait until they could get everything they wanted.

I always thought some of our now-disappeared anti-immigration posters here who referred to Bush as “Jorge” and had spittle flying off of their chins were Dem plants meant to undermine Bush and keep this issue from being resolved until it could be handed over to the Dems so they could use it to harvest 12 million new voters. And now we see them doing just that.

Shirley, you jest?

I was one of those who called Bush "JORGE" and McLame "JUAN."

Can you seriously suggest that what W and McCain wanted to accomplish is NOT (COMPLETE AMNESTY) the same as what DEAR LEADER wants?

Give me a break!!!

30 posted on 11/14/2009 4:52:06 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

It would have been possible to work with them. Bush scaled back several times, but remember, he had a Dem congress and had to be able to get it through the legislature. I think if we had pressed the issue constructively, we could have gotten something through that would have been more acceptable, although obviously it would not satisfy people who wanted internment camps and mass deportations (which I did see suggested here). However, there was a happy medium, not perfect, but possible, and we should have gotten what we could and not left it open for the Dems.

Handing this over to the Dems GUARANTEED that what we were going to get was something that would satisfy nobody but the Dem party. Just wait till we start getting regular legal-right-off-the-boat shipments of ME and African Muslims (one of the things the Dems wanted two years ago was an even higher quota for people from those countries). You think we have problems now?

The Dems are not going to be even slightly interested in your input. They’ve got what they want.


32 posted on 11/14/2009 5:02:31 AM PST by livius
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