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To: Rick_Michael

Yup.

And my point is whether abortion is right or wrong, it’s simply not a government issue. Government can’t make it right or wrong.

It’s a matter for families. It’s a matter for churches. It’s a doctor-patient item.

If the Republican party were to say “We think that abortion is a bad thing. But at the same time, we do not think it is an issue that government should be involved in.”

It’s simply not the province of government.

You know what I mean.


35 posted on 11/14/2009 1:34:34 AM PST by djf (Maybe life ain't about the doing - maybe it's just the trying... Hey, I don't make the rules!)
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To: djf

Absolutely! I agree with this stance yet from other conservatives I talk to many of them take a hard line stance on the abortion issue. Most of these are men - men will NEVER have an abortion nor need to, so perhaps government needs to get out of this issue somehow.

Similarly with the whole gay marriage, rights issue. I really don’t care what gay people do as long as they don’t do it in my face. Just as I don’t appreciate hetero public displays of sex we shouldn’t have to tolerate gay PDA either. I have been married and divorce a few times and got taken to the cleaners each time - so let the gays participate in THAT activity!

As a conservative and republican I am more concerned with things like defense, responsible handling of our tax dollars, and getting the government out of my face in all facets of life. I am frankly tired of seeing tax money spent supporting people who contribute nothing to society. I am tired of completing endless tax forms (I own a business). Tired of my local tax dollars being spent on crap like skateboard parks, flower boxes along the street, grants to this group and that and each group brings NOTHING to the table that will benefit taxpayers at large.

I am tired of being in the majority of opinions yet being in the minority on the receiving end of things.

I am tired of being hushed up when I speak out. I am tired of the PC crap. If I want to say something I will - if those within earshot don’t like it they can leave or confront me - That is THEIR right. They don’t have to right to regulate what I say. I was always taught sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you. Words are just words - get the hell over it!

At what point do we, as the majority opinion holders, get to say “We are the majority - do it our way. If you don’t like it, then become the majority.”


41 posted on 11/14/2009 4:36:58 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: djf

I’ll disagree with you on that, in that I think all issues of morals are within the government (abortion included); although when it comes down to it, it’s status (of being legal or not) doesn’t matter...in that it will still happen.

It may happen less, but it will still happen. I think the effort in practical sense,—regardless of state moving to change their own practice, is to make the conception part the barrier....not to get into it and leave abortion as the only option.

My dispute with abortions mostly resides in how casual it’s used, especially if you bear the statistics. I understand to some extent how women feel bad when they’re raped, but just because it’s inconvenient or they’re irresponsible doesn’t account for much in my mind.

One of these days neither side will have to fight over this issue and I think the right will benefit heavily when this issue is no-longer as big.


43 posted on 11/14/2009 8:37:04 AM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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