Posted on 11/12/2009 9:32:51 PM PST by blam
Don't Fool Yourself: America Is Now A Communist Nation
Politics / US Politics
Nov 12, 2009 - 01:39 AM
By: DailyWealth
At last year's Alliance Conference, I urged folks to buy stocks – vehemently... It was the most bullish I've been in my entire life. But now I feel the opposite way.
When the facts change, I change my mind. I never thought we'd see the government running $2 trillion deficits, taking over health care, owning all the banks...
The stock market seems to believe the government can solve all of our problems with paper money and bureaucratic mandates. My bet is, it doesn't work... at least, not for long.
And given the choice between earning less than 1% in the bank and buying gold at $1,100 per ounce, I'm buying gold.
Watching the government rack up debts that will be impossible to repay while narrowing the tax base (at least 50% of Americans pay zero federal income tax) at the same time is very scary.
Not only has the government gone mad with spending and corruption, but it also expects about 10% of the population to pay for essentially all the costs.
The math simply doesn't add up: 10% of the population can't (and won't) pay for all of the costs of a socialist federal government.
This has nothing to do with traditional party politics. Both parties have grown the size and responsibilities of government. Both parties have added to the national debt.
And both parties support the narrowing of the tax base – because that's what makes good political sense in an unlimited democracy... Promise the voters they can live at the expense of their neighbors and future generations.
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uncitizen, your mommy’s calling. Your bottle’s ready, and your diaper needs to be changed. Also, she needs to wipe the spit-up on my mouth.
What goes around comes around
I will agree with that.
There is more than one way to skin a cat.
I agree. The private sector is most certainly under attack, I just lost my business, but there are still ways to make money.
The silver lining in this cloud is the Tea Party movement. It is growing in number and intensity as more realize the severity of the situation. Obama's policies are creating serious backlash, as the recent gubernatorial races clearly show.
The Tea Party phenomenon is clearly a budding revolution, in structure not unlike the sixties leftist "movement" only this time in the opposite ideological direction.
I marched in the sixties for leftist causes, I was part of the upheaval of those years. Then I got a job, began paying taxes (and attention) and gravitated rightward rather swiftly.
The WAR ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR is our VietNam, talk radio our tribal drumbeat. Glenn Beck is our Abbie Hoffman. Our movement will not be derailed by drugs, because we are adults and there is no Timothy Leary (OK, maybe we should keep a watch on Lindsey Graham).
Oh, and unlike the hippies, we have the internet.
The sixties leftist movement had powerful psychological trappings. There was an intoxicating sense of belonging to a tribe of activists that would change the world for the better, though history shows we damn-near ruined it. I attended the 9-12 rally in DC, and the freeper convention. Many in my circle of friends now approach me, curious about our "movement" and wanting to join in and "do something". It is beginning to be "cool" to be against the Obama policies specifically, as the polls clearly show. This is war, people, and our side is beginning to mobilize. Our growth will be exponential, as there is safety in numbers, which allows more to come out, speak out, and decide to enlist in our quest to save capitalism for our children. Please do not underestimate the power of the Tea Party movement. It has the ability to defeat the socialists in Washington, through the ballot box.
The powers that be say we are leaderless, but they don't realize we don't need leaders, perhaps we shouldn't even want them. Our power is in our spontaneity, our singularity of purpose, our ability to organize to communicate our ire, and the fact that history and current events reveal us to be right about the danger the left's socialist policies portend for our country.
“We’re dead meat...thanks to the traitors in DC.”
You’re dead meat...I’m not.
“...but there are a number obstacles they must deal with in order to firmly establish communist rule.”
Yes, and one of them is to get jackboots on the ground to enforce the illegal dictates. I’ve seen no indication of anyone willing to die on a hilltop for king obuma. Last winter when obuma called out for his “army” to muster and go door-to-door and demand people sign fealty oaths to king obuma, nobody showed up. We had a big hoopla here on FR with large threads about this. American leftists are fat, stupid and lazy. But most important is that they’re cowards.
There is no fat welfare momma obuma division. There is no bed-wetting college kid Waffen SS. There is no gang-banger expeditionary force ready to invade rural hunting country.
king obuma rules for one reason only - Americans respect for the rule of law. That can be both a blessing and a curse. If Americans lose respect for the law, obuma and his fascist thugs are gone.
Well let's see... it is in South America! I've been all over S. America and there has always been a remarkable consistency -- hence the term 'banana republic' is a term derived from (Latin)/Central/South American politics.
Venezuela was hardly Hong Kong or Singapore ten years ago, it was never ranked as a very free country economically
But Venezuela has vast oil reserves, port access, and close proximity to the U.S., thus the potential for great improvement with proper leadership.
Less free countries are easier for socialists to conquer than ones that are free and enjoying the benefits of the free market.
It happened in Europe, that is, a unique brand we call "Eurosocialism". We have a 'very free' market and press (so far), yet it is happening here!
I blame the Democratic Party primarily. But I also blame our own complacency and apathy.
That is the greatest danger I see in Baraq al-Husseini and company. Not the policies that they will try to implement, because those can be rolled back. Damage to the spirit of America is another thing. Where do you go to get back respect for the law? That's not something you can just rewrite in a minute.
Don’t Fool Yourself: You need to learn what a Communist Nation really is.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we are a communist nation yet.
But we are under one-party rule by socialists with communistic tendencies.
There aren’t solid lines on the political spectrum with absolute definitions for every degree of political administration. There are degrees — when enough characteristics are met then the definition applies.
For communism and marxism, look to the elements of the Communist Manifesto. We are well along that path — and it’s happened primarily since FDR.
Another simple test: does the government espouse the view “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”?
A third test: Go to the CPUSA web site and see how much they agree with what the Democrats are achieving.
It took years (since ‘99) for Chavez to change his country into what is very probably an autocracy (yes I know they have elections next year but his oligarchy will still have control, or just change the rules like the last time).
The people that don’t think we are headed at breakneck pace toward socialism or communism are the same ones that think the health care bill is actually about health care.
If the US is a communist country, then you need to get the money out of the US and into negotiable instruments in other, less oppressive countries. Buying gold here is only setting you up for confiscation...
I suggest the book;
“Defeating the Totalitarian Lie: A Former Hitler Youth Warns America” by Hillmar Van Campe
Written by one who saw it and participated in it.
Also, a former KGB agent who told us what they were doing to us;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk
Obama is more of a fascist, but they are all under the same umbrella of “Totalitarianism”
And I would agree. At this point we are more socialist than not.
I have not read Bastiat. I'll do a little research on him. Any recommended books?
You cannot cherry-pick aspects of certain communist or Marxist interpretations and use them as evidence that America is turning communist. As I said, these words do have specific meanings. Whatever ideology currently rules the DNC, it’s some kind of socialism, but it is not communism. Communism means state ownership of the means of production and the abolition of most or all forms of private property.
What’s more, there is simply no need to make things out to be worse than they really are. One can defeat the soft socialism of the DNC intellectually, by applying basic economic principles, without resorting to calling it Marxism or communism.
Such conviction!
I suppose you were asleep for the first nine months of this administration.
Socialism is part of the transition to communism (see Mao's Little Red Book). Just because we aren't 100 percent there yet according to simplistic definitions doesn't mean we aren't being dragged down the path -- just examine the 10 tenets of the Communist Manifesto and compare our relative standing over the last 50 years. And remember modern communism will necessarily differ in the sense that the original Communist Manifesto dates to 1848 when the goals were necessarily more agrarian.
Do you think China is communist? Or maybe you don't know, don't want to pass judgment, that would be so unfair, so intolerant, we want them to like us, we just want to coexist -- why can't we all just get along? -- let's just say it's "some kind of socialism".
Sure, you can just continue to ignore all the warning signs; disregard the backgrounds, rhetoric, tendencies and sympathies of the cast of characters in this administration. Come to think of it, that's the same negligent attitude that resulted in the election of the marxist messiah (the one currently RUINING this country) to begin with.
Would you say that America has a free market economy? No, it is a mixed economy, with rather burdensome regulations in certain industries and a growing welfare state.
So don’t you think it’s silly when the left tries to say that America has been some kind of libertarian dream world since Reagan, and use that to blame our current recession on the free market?
It’s a bad conclusion, based on a bad argument, and it all comes from misapplying labels to economies and policies. Things have to be called what they are to be seen as what they are. Obama is not a Marxist or a communist. He would probably call himself—if he didn’t face another election—a social democrat or socialist.
Now, to the person who hasn’t studied economics, there might seem to be no difference between any of these, and they are all treated as similar terms to describe the same thing. But they are different terms and they mean different things, and it looks as silly as the left does when they say our recession of the fault of the “free market.”
And no, I wouldn’t call China communist, because they’re not, except in name only. They are fascist. Communism wouldn’t have allowed as many market reforms and expansion of economic freedom as China has allowed over the past thirty years. China stopped being communist when they adopted these reforms.
You seem to think that it detracts from your ability to criticize Obama or the Democrats if you can’t call them Marxists or communists, as if “social democracy” or soft socialism wasn’t already discredited without needing to call it things that it isn’t.
Not to be insulting, but I suggest you read a macroeconomics text sometime.
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