To: XHogPilot; Gaffer; Nonstatist; a fool in paradise; Bad Jack Bauer; massgopguy; agere_contra; ...
I am amazed and disappointed at all the comments above...what a bunch of weenies with no endurance or resolve and such short memories and such lack of comprehension of what Afghanistan is all about.
Here is one person who seems to understands some of the repercussions at least, masspoguy:
"The Killing Fields will be back. The Taliban will kill whole villages that backed us. They will kill every woman/girl who learned how to read."
And, mojito, understands the purpose:
"Option Surrender Monkey, thy name is 0. "
And, organicchemist, understands what should be:
"In the past century, the best examples of enemies reconstructing to form stable societies are WW II Japan and Germany (West). What they have in common is that, at the end of hostilities, there was no doubt who was defeated. Anything short of that seems to miss the point of a war."
agere_contra, has a very realistic view of what the win looks like:
"And thats all we need Afghanistan to be. Sort-of-ok. We train and support their military, we help their fledgling democracy and we use Helmand as a place to kill crazies. We infect another Muslim country with the concept of liberty. This is the Bush doctrine (properly understood) and it is a good one."
And, marron, has the understanding of what patience we need to have here:
"This part of Asia is bandit country; it will always be bandit country. There will always have to be some kind of militarized police force up in the hills chasing bandits. We won when we chased the bandits into the hills. Now we have to do the day to day maintenance work of keeping them there, and building the force that will keep them there when weve gone on to the next crisis."
We are on the verge of two nations being muslim extremist with nuclear weapons, Iran and Pakistan. This is a grave threat to the whole world.
It is incomprehensible how persons in power can let this happen, for political gain.
If we pull out of Afghanistan, the Taliban will have Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
The extremist Taliban will use them.
Iran is building their nuclear weapons now...they will have them soon if they don't already.
They are only looking for the correct time to use them...it is not if, but when, with these nutcases.
All the weenies with their wimpy little, "Our people are way too precious for that."
And, the ridiculous misleading statement:
"They are worth far too much to waste them on bullshit like this."
And the extremely understating and riduculously unvisionary comment,
"Let the large northern cities and West Coast metropolis deal with the aftermath."
Jeez, are the Axelrod astroturfers on here or what?
56 posted on
11/12/2009 11:38:33 AM PST by
jacknhoo
(Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
To: jacknhoo
If we pull out of Afghanistan, the Taliban will have Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan has nuclear weapons Press Secretary Gibbs was already floating the concept of negotiating with the Taliban last month. He said that not all of the Taliban are bad.
Obama is just dragging his heels and letting good men die in the meantime.
57 posted on
11/12/2009 11:41:29 AM PST by
a fool in paradise
(I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
To: jacknhoo
You have a right to your opinion and your resolve. It is not your place to judge the resolve of others and to cast aspersions about being Axlerod Astroturfers, whatever. Christians don't do that.
I'm about as conservative and hawkish as they come and I've come to the conclusion that this, Afghanistan, just isn't worth it. You can choose to not accept that, but stop the casitgation newbie.
58 posted on
11/12/2009 11:48:04 AM PST by
Gaffer
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