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To: Talisker
You were saying ...

No, in this case it was an Islamic terrorist killing. And in other cases in America, there are - as you said, "killings for hire, killings during crimes committed for other reasons."

As I said up above (and elsewhere on other postings) this particular one was related to Islamic terrorism, but it was also in a different category than the organized Islamic terrorism from certain terrorist groups.

And while the Islamic terrorism is something that goes on in this country, at the same time, so does the "mass killings" that we've seen with our own people in this country shooting other people in this country, as in the list up above.

Now, even though Islamic terrorism is a big threat and something to definitely combat, I would say that our own people have killed more of our own people than terrorists have.

And, in this case, in the Fort Hood shootings, it turns out that this guy was one of our own people, too -- having been born and raised in this country. So, he was engaging in Islamic terrorism having been a home-grown variety, coming from within our own country, having lived here all his life.

47 posted on 11/11/2009 11:52:53 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I’m curious - especially given your profile page - as to why you seem to be arguing that this is a problem of the availability of guns. Has somebody hijacked your account.


50 posted on 11/11/2009 12:00:11 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Star Traveler
And, in this case, in the Fort Hood shootings, it turns out that this guy was one of our own people, too -- having been born and raised in this country. So, he was engaging in Islamic terrorism having been a home-grown variety, coming from within our own country, having lived here all his life.

This guy murdered Americans for not being Muslim. That means he's not an American - no matter where he grew up or lived or the uniform he wore - he was a traitor to the very essence of his country. Americans, by definition, do not kill other people for being different. Acceptance of difference is what being American is all about.

...this particular one was related to Islamic terrorism, but it was also in a different category than the organized Islamic terrorism from certain terrorist groups.

"Related"? "Different category?" According to who - you? Or according to the guy standing there calmly pumping bullets into a pregnant woman, or the wounded as they try to crawl away, or the other unarmed Americans you think he sees as his fellow countrymen?

What planet do you live on? He is a Muslim who takes seriously the Islamic command of Jihad - the exact same command given ALL Muslims the world over, without any exception whatsoever, and responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of people, and the enslavement of millions of women. These people consider themselves Muslims first, and every other association second. That's what they say about themselves. Who are you to tell them they are wrong about who they are and what they're doing?

Or do you think they are too stupid to be able to explain themselves?

58 posted on 11/11/2009 12:10:45 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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