Obama's "Catholic" Plan (over 1,000,000 views!)

YouTube ^ | 05-12-09 | Michael Voris

[mlizzy]

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[mlizzy]

My favorite Voris video
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The Screams of the Little Boy

[mel]

bump later

[marvlus]

later look.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Voris always has something interesting to say, and in plain language: unlike the wordy, equivocating bafflegab we so often get from (f’rinstance) the USCCB....

[mlizzy]

Voris always has something interesting to say, and in plain language: unlike the wordy, equivocating bafflegab we so often get from (f’rinstance) the USCCB....

Are you able to pick up all he is saying in his videos? My husband does some translating for me, but I'm happy Michael puts some of the words up on the screen so I can piece them together. But this video I was able to make out pretty much on my own, his parable about an Obama-esque king and I think I've watched it 15 times, not once with a dry eye. You're really right about the "plain language" thing.

[netmilsmom]

The only problem with Voris is that he doesn’t differentiate between A Bishop and the USCCB.
He doesn’t like different opinions about that either.

Go to a YouTube video and disagree with the man and you will find your comments swept. I don’t like that.

He used to have a radio show on Sundays here in MI. He and his partner stated the 3000 different Protestant denominations myth. From being on FR I know that this is wrong. My DH called and tried to explain why it was incorrect. They yelled and cut him off.

Michael is good, but his facts can be a bit off and he HATES the Bishops. We should give credit to the Bishops who are righteous. Period.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I think your criticisms are, unfortunately, on target...though I haven't listened to Voris all that much. (In fact, I have watched just two of his videos all the way through.)

People who are very assertive when telling the truth, sometimes do their cause (and themselves) untold damage by being very bull-headed when they veer off of the truth.

[netmilsmom]

Amen!

[mlizzy]

#6. The only problem with Voris is that he doesn’t differentiate between A Bishop and the USCCB. He doesn’t like different opinions about that either...

Yes, Michael Voris can be pretty direct (although I don't question his heart), and I agree with him that some bishops have not done as much as they could to feed their flock. I suppose Bishop D'Arcy was maybe too old to handle the whole ND/Obama debacle, but every ND-lover was praying that he would do much more.

I asked my husband about the 3,000 different Protestant denominations, and he said he was under the impression there were more like 20,000, and maybe Voris was only speaking of the "main" ones, but I'm not sure what you were referring to as the "myth" -- if it was numbers or something else.

Sorry your DH was hung up on. No one likes that kind of treatment.

[Faith]

Great post and video! Thanks.

[netmilsmom]

>>and I agree with him that some bishops have not done as much as they could to feed their flock.<<

We all do. But some Bishops are not ALL Bishops and spreading misinformation doesn’t help. He demonizes Bishops as a group, accusing them of horrendous deeds when we all know that a Mahoney or a Trautman are not representative of the entire USCCB.

I think it was Mad Dawg who had the amount of Protestant denominations. I’m pinging.

MD, were you the Catholic with the number of Protestant denominations?

[netmilsmom]

I’m sorry, I just noticed that I missed a “0”.
Voris was stating 30,000. Which is wrong.

[mlizzy]

Voris was stating 30,000. Which is wrong.

This link states over 30,000. I don't know how accurate this info is though. We have a priest in the family. I can check with him next time I see him.

[netmilsmom]

Yeah, that’s the one.
It’s been disproven here, and used as fuel against us because it’s stated that Catholics just make up facts. We need NOT to use that figure because it is wrong.

A simple Bing search of “30,000 Protestant Denominations” gives you tons of references including this....

In an article entitled “30,000 Protestant Denominations?”, Evangelical apologist Eric Svendsen exposes the falsehood of this fabrication. Briefly:

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Svendsen shows that the source of this figure is the World Christian Encyclopedia (David A. Barrett; Oxford University Press, 1982).
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Barrett cites a figure of 20,780 denominations. However not all of them are Protestants. According to Barrett, Protestants account for 8,196 (and incidentally, Roman Catholics account for 223).
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However, even this figure of eight thousand Protestant denominations is misleading, for Barrett defines “distinct denominations” as any group that might have a slightly different emphasis than another group. The distinction is made on the basis of jurisdiction, rather than differing beliefs and practices.
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Barrett breaks down the Protestant bloc into twenty-one major “traditions” which are much closer to what we usually mean by the word “denominations.” It is interesting that Roman Catholics are subdivided into sixteen such “traditions.”
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Svendsen concludes, “In short, Roman Catholic apologists have hurriedly, carelessly - and, as a result, irresponsibly - glanced at Barrett’s work, found a large number (22,189), and arrived at all sorts of absurdities that Barrett never concluded.”

The Priest in your family isn’t going to know anymore about Protestant denominations than any of us can find on the internet. If Catholic clergy could answer all questions about life, I’d give a ring to my Uncle. He is a Bishop Emeritus and he could tell all. LOL!

[mlizzy]

My husband has done some Catholic writing but never has covered the denomination numbers, so I really didn't know anything about it, but if the Protestants had 6 or 66,000 denominations, they still nonetheless wouldn't have even one that distributes the "Real Body of Christ," and if I were a Protestant (which I was for 30 years), that would be what would concern me the most.

Congrats to your Uncle. What a tough, but important, position in the Church.

[mlizzy]

Great post and video! Thanks.
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Thank YOU, Faith! Have you seen Randall Terry's new video on his group's counter-protest of N.O.W.'s Stupak Amendment protest? It's really very good (as in unique!)...

[Mad Dawg]

MD, were you the Catholic with the number of Protestant denominations?

Nope. It wasn't I. I've heard the 20k number, but I suspect that it's maybe a little unfair. I'm guessing not all divisions are what we would think of as schisms and that there is often cooperation among different bits of the same "family."