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Firefight Between North and South Korean Navy This Morning: Causualty Unknown
Yonhap News ^ | 11/10/09

Posted on 11/09/2009 7:19:35 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Firefight Between North and South Korean Navy This Morning: Causualty Unknown

Happened on the morning of Nov. 10 at NLL.

N. Korean patrol boats went over NLL to the south. Warning shots fired, but ignored. S. Korean navy fired at N. Korean ship. N. Koreans returned fire.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: casualty; firefight; korea; korean; morning; navy; nkorea; northkorea; skorea; southkorea; unknown
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Really... that happened today..."


61 posted on 11/09/2009 9:22:03 PM PST by avacado
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To: avacado

“You don’t say?.... Dayyum! this mint chocolate is good!”


62 posted on 11/09/2009 9:24:12 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Major Nidal Malik Hasan: American "bitterly clinging to guns & religion", right Mr. Obama?)
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To: avacado

I see an apparation of satan in the creases of his trousers.


63 posted on 11/09/2009 9:24:53 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Major Nidal Malik Hasan: American "bitterly clinging to guns & religion", right Mr. Obama?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Yes, they placed a marker in anticipation of possible future scenario.

Won't be good if discord erupts between Zero's inner circle and career military/defense professionals. However, I am afraid that it is what will happen if this one escalates.

You see, U.S. is trying to send large reinforcement to Afghan to repel Taliban. If N. Korea is to pull off substantial provocation(company size infantry incursion or a dozen navy ships to get even,) that could really hammer Zero. I wonder what China would do. Wince and forget?

64 posted on 11/09/2009 9:28:07 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Carry_Okie; Jet Jaguar; SevenofNine; gaijin
Accounts from local residents in the area:

http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/11/10/2009111000920.html

Mr. Kim(age:40,) a resident in Daechung Island, said, “I was hearing the sounds of naval guns fires, starting around 11:27 AM, lasting for 20 minutes. At first, the booms were frequent, but after 10 minutes, they got less and less freqeunt.”

10 km from Daechung Island, residents in Sochung Island(approx. 290 people in total) also said that they heard naval gun fires around the time of the firefight. Mr. Kim(age: 54,) a resident in Sochung Island said, “Just past 11:20 AM, I started to hear thunder-like noise but it was not a thunder, though. After learning about the firefight, I climbed up to a rock(Boon Bawi) which is 20 ~ 30 meter above sea level. It was about 12:10 PM. I was able to spot three N. Korean patrol boats in N. Korean waters but can't see patrol boat(s) from our side(S. Korea.)

65 posted on 11/09/2009 9:45:33 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Really nothing new. They have been doing this off and on since the Armistice and squabbling over territorial waters. They will be doing this for another 50 years or they turn the entire peninsula into radioactive ash. If I had a dollar for every North Korean incursion on land or on water I would be a millionaire.
66 posted on 11/09/2009 9:51:47 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Carry_Okie; Jet Jaguar; SevenofNine; gaijin
From Yonhap News:


67 posted on 11/09/2009 9:52:05 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They are just poking each other with a stick to see who flinches first


68 posted on 11/09/2009 10:00:07 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Or one of the quotes I liked was, "they are just rattling Obongo's cage to see if he gets a case of the squirts". Always found that rather colorful, in a US Navy-kinda way.
69 posted on 11/09/2009 10:04:49 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Major Nidal Malik Hasan: American "bitterly clinging to guns & religion", right Mr. Obama?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

They have been fighting over the same waters since the beginning of the Korean war. Its getting rather old and stale. Again, if I had a dollar for every North Korean incursion on land and water I would be a millionare.


70 posted on 11/09/2009 10:08:28 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Now, if they introduced nukes into the fighting then it would be rather interesting.


71 posted on 11/09/2009 10:12:23 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: gaijin

Our at least up to 3:17....in the vid


72 posted on 11/09/2009 10:19:34 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (There was a hole here. It's gone now.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bttt


73 posted on 11/09/2009 10:23:52 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: patriot preacher
WOW. Tae Guk Gi looks like a good movie! Love to know more about it.

I rented mine from Netflix. I watched it with the dubbing which was done pretty good. The visuals and sound effects are awesome. I liked the movie more than Saving Private Ryan even though there are some similarities.

Here is more details
74 posted on 11/09/2009 10:58:09 PM PST by dirtman
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To: Liberty Valance; AmericanInTokyo; Carry_Okie; Jet Jaguar; SevenofNine; gaijin

Update

http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/politics/2009/11/10/0521000000AKR20091110149800043.HTML?template=2085

Announcement by Joint Chief of Staffs:


75 posted on 11/09/2009 11:06:17 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2009/11/10/36/0301000000AEN20091110007200315F.HTML

(6th LD) Koreas clash off west coast, dispute each other’s accounts

By Sam Kim

SEOUL, Nov. 10 (Yonhap) — A North Korea naval boat returned home “wrapped in flames” after a brief but fierce skirmish in the South Korean waters off the west coast on Tuesday, Seoul officials said.

North Korea disputed the account, saying in a statement that the South must apologize for shooting at its boat as it returned to port after conducting a routine mission in its waters.

No South Korean sailors were killed in the clash that erupted shortly after the North Korean patrol boat crossed the Northern Limit Line (NLL) at 11:27 a.m. in the Yellow Sea, the officials here said.

The shooting lasted about two minutes, Lee Ki-shik, a South Korean military officer told reporters, with the South Korean boat taking about 15 shots from the North Koreans that apparently fired about 50 rounds.

South Korea retaliated by firing back with its onboard guns, Lee said, adding his government expresses regret over the incident — the third such clash in the area after 1999 and 2002.

South Korean Prime Minister Chung Un-chan told lawmakers in a televised parliamentary meeting that a single North Korean boat returned across the border while “enveloped in flames.”

He also said the incident was “accidental.” President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency national security meeting, calling for “composure” in dealing with the situation.

The South Korean Navy sounded a warning twice before the North Korean boat crossed the NLL — a de facto border drawn at the end of the Korean War — and three times afterward, according to Lee Ki-shik.

The naval boats were a little over 3km away from each other, Lee said, stressing the South Korean Navy followed standard operating procedure before the shooting erupted.

South Korean analysts gave mixed views about North Korea's possible motive behind the incident, which took place only a week ahead of an Asian trip by U.S. President Barack Obama.

“It appears to be a move to raise tension ahead of Obama’s visit to South Korea,” Yoo Ho-yeol a North Korea professor at Korea University in Seoul. “North Koreans believe tension helps them strengthen their bargaining power.”

Ryu Gil-jae, professor at the University of North Korean Studies in Seoul, disagreed, saying the incident appeared aimed at testing the South Korean government.

“North Korea would have test-fired missiles if it had wanted to vex the U.S.,” he said. “The Yellow Sea clash is more of a message to the South that it should be taken more seriously.”

The clash came amid an accelerating thaw between the Koreas, whose relations turned frosty following the inauguration of South Korean President Lee Myung-bak early last year.

Kang Sung-yoon, a North Korea specialist at Seoul's Dongguk University, said the North Korean attack on the South appears to serve more than one purpose.

But Kang warned against reaching a quick conclusion on the issue, saying the battle should be more closely examined in the first place.

“Details regarding the incident should be looked at to understand what the North Korean intent really was,” he said.

South Korea recently deployed its latest high-speed guided-missile boat along the NLL, which was drawn by a U.S. general at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War that ended in a truce.

“We are analyzing the motive for the North Korean boat's crossing. We do not rule out the possibility that the clash may have been an accidental skirmish,” a defense official here said, asking for anonymity.

76 posted on 11/09/2009 11:10:43 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I like, I like.

50 DPRK rounds met with 100 ROK rounds. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight as they say.

77 posted on 11/09/2009 11:17:15 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Major Nidal Malik Hasan: American "bitterly clinging to guns & religion", right Mr. Obama?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The DPRK (I’m guessing) brought a heavy machine gun to an autocannon fight.


78 posted on 11/10/2009 12:18:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: maquiladora; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

ping


79 posted on 11/10/2009 12:30:12 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Spktyr

Now some report claim that 200 rounds were fired by the S. Korean navy vessel. Doesn’t matter if they fired 100 or 200 rounds, though. A top half of the N. Korean ship was turned into Swiss cheese and it barely limped back to their home.


80 posted on 11/10/2009 12:46:49 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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