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Shocking numbers: Real unemployment tops 22%:
World Net Daily via The Woodward Report ^ | November 9, 2009 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 11/09/2009 3:14:10 PM PST by honestabe010

The true rate of unemployment for October 2009 may be 22.1 percent, not the 10.2 percent reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Jerome Corsi's Red Alert reports.

Unemployment at 22.1 percent, if accurate, would be at numbers not seen since peak unemployment during the 1973 to 1975 recession.

Economist John Williams, publisher of ShadowStats.com, estimates that the peak of unemployment in nonfarm unemployment in the Great Depression of the 1930s would, by his methodology, have registered at 34 to 35 percent in 1933.

So, how does the Obama administration get away with reporting the lower unemployment percentage?

Corsi explained that the Clinton administration changed the way BLS calculates unemployment statistics by excluding "discouraged workers," those who had given up looking for a job because there were no jobs to be found.

Since the Clinton years, discouraged workers looking for a job for more than one year are not counted as "unemployed" because they are considered to have dropped out of the labor force.

The BLS still includes in "U6 Unemployment" calculations short-term discouraged workers, as long as they have been looking for a job less than one year.

This definition permits the Obama administration to under-report "U3 unemployment" at 10.2 percent when real unemployment as calculated before the Clinton administration redefinition is twice that amount, Red Alert contends, and U6 unemployment lies somewhere in between.

These differences are illustrated in the following chart that Williams produces in the "Alternative Data" section of his website named "Shadow Government Statistics: Analysis Behind and Beyond Government Economic Reporting."...

(Excerpt) Read more at thewoodwardreport.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; corsi; economicdownturn; layoffs; recession; unemployment

1 posted on 11/09/2009 3:14:11 PM PST by honestabe010
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To: honestabe010

Wow - that graph is ugly


2 posted on 11/09/2009 3:16:11 PM PST by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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To: honestabe010

And Obama’s job-killing policies are not likely to improve the situation. Wait until cap and trade, Obama-care, higher taxation, card check, and trade protectionism hit the economy.


3 posted on 11/09/2009 3:17:06 PM PST by fhayek
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To: honestabe010

With this current leadership,Would you expect less?


4 posted on 11/09/2009 3:19:23 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: honestabe010


It's climbing like magic beans ... Obama wants to be on the right side of history! I'm wondering who's history. Soros is going to enrichen himself at our loss ... perhaps this is all for his rich communist buds.
5 posted on 11/09/2009 3:20:01 PM PST by fujimoh
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To: fhayek

We have to use this to “unemploy” Democrats in 2010.


6 posted on 11/09/2009 3:21:40 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: fhayek

Where the hell is the mandate for the DemocRATS to be doing what they’re doing? It’s not like half of the country did NOT vote AGAINST their sorry commie @sses.


7 posted on 11/09/2009 3:23:42 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: fujimoh

You have grasped the reality of the situation.


8 posted on 11/09/2009 3:24:49 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: honestabe010
The most remarkable part of that reality is that it's not more widely circulated.

The 20% neighborhood sounds about right.

9 posted on 11/09/2009 3:29:26 PM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: honestabe010
Unemployment at 22.1 percent

As I drive around California, that's about where I would put the rate.

More than that, however, is the near total gloom. Inventories are at bare cupboard levels.

Nobody expects this recession to be "over" or even "bottomed-out".

No sane business owner would be hiring or expanding in the face of Cap and Confiscate, Healthcare Confiscation, and Card Check Union takeover. No sane person!

I wish I had a less gloomy observation and forecast.

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10 posted on 11/09/2009 3:32:50 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: fujimoh; honestabe010
Following the November '06 elections, the Dems took control of Congress in January '07.

I wonder if there's any correlation to that event and the almost immediate rising lines on this chart?! /s

11 posted on 11/09/2009 3:34:22 PM PST by mellow velo
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To: fujimoh

I think it’s odd that those lines are parallel through the whole time period. I would think that in the late 90s the lines would be closer together (i.e. fewer discouraged unemployed). This analysis seems to indicate (or assume) that the number of discouraged (i.e. the difference between the U6 and Alternate lines) has remained constant since 1994.


12 posted on 11/09/2009 3:35:48 PM PST by Plexi
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To: Plexi
Agreed. It's a good thing for the poster to point up the phoniness of the official numbers.

But to counteract it with more phoney numbers is just plain wrong.

13 posted on 11/09/2009 3:46:33 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: honestabe010

The situation is so bad that even a bunch as shifty as Obamanites can’t spin even their version of the unemployment rate is under 10%. It is a given the real rate is much worse.


14 posted on 11/09/2009 3:50:11 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Cheetahcat
you mean affirmative action put incompetent people into positions they don't belong?

Who'd of thunk!

15 posted on 11/09/2009 3:57:19 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“you mean affirmative action put incompetent people into positions they don’t belong?
Who’d of thunk!”

The racist Government cannot be wrong there must be a mistake here!


16 posted on 11/09/2009 4:28:56 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: fujimoh
hmm... i've seen that curve somewhere before...


17 posted on 11/09/2009 4:34:52 PM PST by sten
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To: mellow velo

Here we go “The Worst Congress Ever”

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12055360/cover_story_time_to_go_inside_the_worst_congress_ever

maroons!!


18 posted on 11/09/2009 4:39:11 PM PST by mo
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