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Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
cbsnews.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2009 | Michelle Levi

Posted on 11/08/2009 10:26:06 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

(CBS) Senator Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said the health care bill passed last night by the House of Representatives is "dead on arrival to the Senate."

Graham argued that the House bill was "written for liberals, by liberals.

"Just look at how it passed; it passed 220 to 215. It passed by two votes. You had [39] Democrats vote against the bill," Graham told "Face the Nation" host Bob Schieffer Sunday.

He also admitted that if it were to come down to it, he would join his independent colleague Senator Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., in filibustering a bill including the so-called public option should it come to the Senate floor.

"The House bill is a non-starter in the Senate," he added. "I just think the construct out of the House and what exists in the Senate is not going to pass, and I hope and pray it doesn't because it would be a disaster for the economy and health care," Graham concluded.

Graham believed a public option would "destroy" private health care, saying that insurance companies could not compete against the lower premiums of a government-backed plan. "It will be a death blow to private choice," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 111th; doa; gophealthcare; hr3962
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BS! The Senate Finance Committee will approve this like they did Crap and Tax ... both will be rubber stamped for approval in the Senate.


41 posted on 11/08/2009 10:48:34 AM PST by fujimoh
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To: Canedawg

Good one. LOL!


42 posted on 11/08/2009 10:48:56 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: Enterprise

The House RATS are totally disconnected from the reality of their constituents’ lives, especially with mounting unemployment.

From NRO:

Mutiny in Scrutiny? [Jeffrey H. Anderson]

It was always clear that the real health-care battle would be in the Senate. But what would have been shocking eight months ago is to hear that it would take until November for the Democrats to pass a bill even in the House. It would have been even more shocking to have heard that, even after a full-court-press by the White House, the bill would pass by only five votes — meaning that if just three of the 435 members had changed their minds, it would have changed the bill’s fate. And it would have been shocking to have heard that 39 Democrats would jump ship.

The House bill has passed — barely and belatedly — and it is now dead. Nothing like it will ever pass the Senate. The question now is whether anything will, now that the voters have spoken in New Jersey and Virginia — and now that the exceedingly narrow margin in the House will likely invite even greater scrutiny of that which is being proposed.

Greater scrutiny will not help the Democrats’ efforts. In truth, their hopes for passage largely hinge on successfully hiding two plain facts from the voters: One, the House Republicans and the Congressional Budget Office have now shown that a bill costing $61 billion can lower Americans’ insurance premiums, while bills costing $1.7 trillion cannot (and instead would raise them substantially). Two, the Democrats’ plans would be paid for only if they follow through on plans to siphon hundreds of billions of dollars out of already-barely-solvent Medicare, and to do so just in time for the baby boomers’ retirement.

Given the magnitude of the challenge of continuing to hide these plain facts from an increasingly attentive citizenry, the Democratic health-care train has a very bumpy ride ahead — as it rolls into the chamber that the American Founders thought from the beginning would ultimately decide our fate: the Senate.

— Jeffrey H. Anderson is a senior fellow in health-care studies at the Pacific Research Institute and was the senior speechwriter for Secretary Mike Leavitt at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services during Pres. George W. Bush’s second term.


43 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:09 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: rod1
. He’s a media hog HORE first and RAT-Party aider second.

There now, fixed.
44 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:18 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lindsay, you’ll just help the Commies make the house bill worse and then sign it. FOAD, you low-life, scumbag, vichy, chap-lipped, flat-kneed, lisping pecker puffer.


45 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:37 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

lindsey is just scared we will come to visit the senate next.......


46 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:51 AM PST by tioga
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To: freeangel

The vote was made to look “close.” I don’t think there was a blue dog in the bunch who couldn’t have been pressured to vote for the bill. They all stink.


47 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:53 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t believe/trust anything about Graham. That rat acting as a RINO will say anything to get attention. To think SC votes for the light-in-the-loafer idiot.


48 posted on 11/08/2009 10:51:04 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Thanks, now there are two of us... ;-].


49 posted on 11/08/2009 10:52:50 AM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Freddd
He’ll be the first one Obama talks to.

You are right. Graham is lying through his teeth.

The liberal media did not even report that Pelosi was going to put this bill up for a vote. And the small number of media outlets that did report it , said that “ there might be a bill voted on but that there was so many disagreements that it was unlikely to come to a vote or to pass.”

Lindsay , the democrats and the media want us to relax and not pay attention . And we the public will relax as long as they keep telling us “there is no chance it will pass but blah blah blah” , Then they'll pass it on a weekend on Saturday night or on a holiday.

They lied so we all would relax and watch football this weekend instead of watching what the democrats are doing. What the democrats were doing was passing a bill that would put us on the path to socialism. Socialism will end up ruining our economy, taking away our liberty, prosperity, and private property.

50 posted on 11/08/2009 10:53:03 AM PST by rurgan (Sarah Palin:"Big government is the problem, not the solution" Me:socialism doesn't work)
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To: mwl8787

I am praying that Anderson is right. I have full confidence in the treachery that Obama and his minions have to get this passed.


51 posted on 11/08/2009 10:53:35 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Freddd

Lindsey Graham is not a flip flopper...he has been saying for months the public option has zero chance in the Senate.

The House vote is nothing but a sop to the hard left base of the party.


52 posted on 11/08/2009 10:53:40 AM PST by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Boiling Pots

You speak the truth. Graham does not lie he just capitulates.


53 posted on 11/08/2009 10:55:22 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: roses of sharon

You are unfortunately correct. People are still looking at this as a political thing, when it’s much bigger than that, only the Rs either don’t seem to realise it or for some unfathomable reason support it. It’s gone way beyond that now. The rats are playing for a fundamental shift in American governance, the Republicans are still seeing it as politics as usual. Or else they have been given some reason to support this fundamental change. Even knowing this, I still don’t understand. I understand why the left wants it, they know this signal a sea change in America that they have long wanted—but I don’t understand why any Republicans would allow it, if not downright support it. I can’t see where it is in a Republican’s “positive” column, certainly not long-term, and not even short-term. What in the world is going on up there in DC? Have they all been hypnotised, blackmailed, bribed, what? I know some will vote against it in any form, but there are too many who will use any small meaningless changes in wording as cover to vote for final passage.

Most Americans oppose it, especially Republican/independent voters. What is in it for a Republican to vote for this, if they don’t care about the fundamental change to America it will signal?

It just doesn’t make sense, in the light of what we know. I wonder what it is that we don’t know?


54 posted on 11/08/2009 10:56:47 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Don’t count your votes until the are cast GOP.


55 posted on 11/08/2009 10:59:06 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He says that now, but wait until he puts on his B.O. kneepads.


56 posted on 11/08/2009 11:00:52 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: roses of sharon
The voters have seen to that.

Yuri Bezmenov warned us back in the 80's that the demoralization[brainwashing] of America is complete. It is beyond the Communist's wildest dreams. People don't know up from down, right from wrong, can't from shouldn't.

Scary times.
57 posted on 11/08/2009 11:00:53 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I don't trust him.

Didn't he use the same language at the beginning of Cap and Tax?

58 posted on 11/08/2009 11:01:41 AM PST by TheThinker
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To: xtinct
cuz the word on the net is: "shove it down our throats in '09 and we'll ram it up you @ss in '10"

Someone has to make this bumber sticker...and with a Democrat donkey in place of "ass".

59 posted on 11/08/2009 11:03:49 AM PST by TheThinker
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To: TheThinker
No he went right to preemptive surrender on Cap and Tax. He never even pretended to be against it.
60 posted on 11/08/2009 11:03:57 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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