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Elderly Gatekeepers
Fox News | 10/09/2009 | Self

Posted on 11/08/2009 7:09:00 AM PST by Mike Darancette

I just heard an anesthesiologist on FOX News say that the new Pelousy Health Care bill just passed contained a requirement that seniors will have gatekeepers that will control senior access to health care.


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KEYWORDS: healthcare; pelosi; seiors
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To: Mike Darancette

Gatekeepers = death panels


41 posted on 11/08/2009 9:01:33 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Marty62

it is unconstitutional. PERIOD.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You honestly think that the Constitution matters to the Marxists?


42 posted on 11/08/2009 9:10:20 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

So lets see you argument is to forget about the Constitution. I don’t think so.


43 posted on 11/08/2009 9:11:24 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

I am not saying the patriots should forget the Constitution.

But...I think you are being foolish to think that Marxist controlled courts give a damn about the Constitution.


44 posted on 11/08/2009 9:12:57 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Marty62

I am not saying the patriots should forget the Constitution.

But...I think you are being foolish to think that Marxist controlled courts give a damn about the Constitution.


45 posted on 11/08/2009 9:13:09 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

THAT has to be the 1st step. If as you say our jurist are anti-constitutionalist then we move forward.


46 posted on 11/08/2009 9:19:06 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: BusterBear
The gatekeeper concept is not going to work.
If you are a nurse practitioner( or a family physician), and you are seeing an elderly patient with complex problems- there is no way you are going to deny them specialty care.
NPs do not have the training to deal with these problems, and would likely face lawsuits if they did not refer out appropriately.
Family practice doctors have more training, but they would also face lawsuits if they took on a patient they could not handle.
What this will do is create more government layers which will accomplish nothing.
That is why the ins. companies dropped the gatekeeper model- too many complaints from physicians and patients with no cost control improvement.
47 posted on 11/08/2009 9:28:20 AM PST by kaila
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To: Old Professer

But see, you are only making sense with these numbers...

$14.10 is chicken feed to what the collective delusionalism liberals see in the “common” citizenry...

$14.10 x (pick a number) = Cha-ching for the government


48 posted on 11/08/2009 11:56:01 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Go ahead, call me a racist...One more time...)
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To: Mike Darancette

We already have a gatekeeper. His name is St. Peter. I thought Democrats were against religion.


49 posted on 11/08/2009 12:01:11 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Marty62

Marty, your naiveté is touching. Apparently you don’t know who these people are.


50 posted on 11/08/2009 12:20:20 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I know exactly WHO they are.
I also know that the Tea Party Movement will fall apart.
People are already crying that they failed.
PAAAAHLEEEZE.
This is not a short battle.
I fear the real people wiill not have the stamina to follow thru on this.
Everyone knew the DUMS had the votes to pass this nightmare.
It was a pipe dream to think ANY DUM would let their evil party suffer a loss.
This WAR has JUST started.
The goal is to defeat the DUMS in 2010. That has ALWAYS been the ONLY way to stop them.


51 posted on 11/08/2009 1:04:58 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

I am not sure we are talking about the same people. I am talking about Obama and his gang of Communists thugs and that includes the media.

Perhaps you are talking about those who oppose them.

Which is it?


52 posted on 11/08/2009 1:43:20 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

WE are talking about the same people.
I am just afraid our side will say we gave it a shot and move on.
THAT can NOT happen.
I know it’s hard to fight against the evil onslaught, but the Founders had a much harder battle.

AND much bigger losses.
WE have to make sure there are no more DUMS elected or reelected to Congress or Senate. We have to start taking back America THERE and in our Statehouses.


53 posted on 11/08/2009 1:56:37 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

I think the resentment and rebellion is deep enough to have legs into the next election. I also think more will be done by this administration to increase opposition to them as we go along. They are going to scare even more Democrats.

There is nothing really to fight at the moment. The House passed a version of healthcare that is much different from what the Senate has in mind. I know that may be the plan - to do the dirty dealing in the reconciliation process - but I am not sure they will get a bill out of the Senate to reconcile.


54 posted on 11/08/2009 2:05:02 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I know I just don’t want people to lose their voice.


55 posted on 11/08/2009 3:05:28 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

Good, keep it up. I’ll try to snap to earlier next time.

:-)


56 posted on 11/08/2009 3:20:29 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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