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To: mel; All
"Basically you have about 50% of the country working to support the other 50% as immigration increases then it will increase to less workers."

I wonder how the commies think they're going to get paid their rather generous salaries with the 50% (the half that's against them) put in prison for not paying for their mandatory healthcare bs. Or, maybe they plan to put us to work (slave labor) inside the prisons. They may already have a deal in the works with China for manufacturing 'cheap labor' right here in the states.

That, plus the major portion of stimulus money that hasn't been spent yet might be their 'safety net' to draw on when we are all behind bars. They'll still get their salaries and it'll still be OUR MONEY paying for it.

Either way, they intend to continue to loot the nation and to further enslave taxpayers. That means us, btw.

746 posted on 11/08/2009 7:23:37 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

Finally. This is the kind of point that has to be made to stop this from getting anywhere real. The facts.
We all fell for the same old trick of focusing on a couple of real but not THE REAL points of this debate. The “conversations” leading up to this debate were, in my opinion, not the points that REALLY matter. Sure federally funded abortion is important and so is the illegal immigrant issue, but they used these to deflect away from the real issues.
Here are the real issues and how to wake up average Bob from blindly saying he wants “health care reform”:
Lay out the facts:

1. They say they are doing this to help all of those people who can’t afford health care. Tell those people who are currently paying nothing how much of their budget they will now have to fork over for it. Many of the folks I know that are for it, don’t carry any health insurance on the their families, none=$0 of current budget. They do have all the fun things in life, motorcycles, vacations, drugs, eat out etc. How much will they now HAVE to pay for mandated health care or go to jail or have it put in their taxes next year. There goes their cherished Earned Income Credit. Trust me, they think health care reform is free health care. Pointing this out clearly will lose most of that support immediately.

2. So, if everybody is having a hard time paying for the houses they shouldn’t have bought, but we have to find a way to keep them in them and paying for them or the bottom will fall out of the housing market leading to an economic meltdown, how can you throw another 15K into their budgets and avert the meltdown?

3. Show the responsible who are insured how much their coverage will cost after this goes into effect. Same rates for men and women, same for preexisting conditions, no limits on coverage etc. If you’re currently paying $400-$800 / month, you will now be paying $THIS ($1500 / m?). That will wake up these people. Individuals do not have pricing power or taxing authority. They will have to find the money in a relatively fixed income situation. By the way, getting another job or employing a nonworking spouse isn’t so easy these days (10 % UE +). Ask them where they are going to come up with the money. Those on employer plans are not immune either. They have seen the companies paying less and less over the last bunch of years, so they know the premium will be passed to them. Wake these people up, too.

If someone can put these numbers out there in a simple 100 word summary in simple English, maybe people will understand what they are “supporting”.


761 posted on 11/08/2009 8:28:00 AM PST by jgophel
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