Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: XenaLee

Finally. This is the kind of point that has to be made to stop this from getting anywhere real. The facts.
We all fell for the same old trick of focusing on a couple of real but not THE REAL points of this debate. The “conversations” leading up to this debate were, in my opinion, not the points that REALLY matter. Sure federally funded abortion is important and so is the illegal immigrant issue, but they used these to deflect away from the real issues.
Here are the real issues and how to wake up average Bob from blindly saying he wants “health care reform”:
Lay out the facts:

1. They say they are doing this to help all of those people who can’t afford health care. Tell those people who are currently paying nothing how much of their budget they will now have to fork over for it. Many of the folks I know that are for it, don’t carry any health insurance on the their families, none=$0 of current budget. They do have all the fun things in life, motorcycles, vacations, drugs, eat out etc. How much will they now HAVE to pay for mandated health care or go to jail or have it put in their taxes next year. There goes their cherished Earned Income Credit. Trust me, they think health care reform is free health care. Pointing this out clearly will lose most of that support immediately.

2. So, if everybody is having a hard time paying for the houses they shouldn’t have bought, but we have to find a way to keep them in them and paying for them or the bottom will fall out of the housing market leading to an economic meltdown, how can you throw another 15K into their budgets and avert the meltdown?

3. Show the responsible who are insured how much their coverage will cost after this goes into effect. Same rates for men and women, same for preexisting conditions, no limits on coverage etc. If you’re currently paying $400-$800 / month, you will now be paying $THIS ($1500 / m?). That will wake up these people. Individuals do not have pricing power or taxing authority. They will have to find the money in a relatively fixed income situation. By the way, getting another job or employing a nonworking spouse isn’t so easy these days (10 % UE +). Ask them where they are going to come up with the money. Those on employer plans are not immune either. They have seen the companies paying less and less over the last bunch of years, so they know the premium will be passed to them. Wake these people up, too.

If someone can put these numbers out there in a simple 100 word summary in simple English, maybe people will understand what they are “supporting”.


761 posted on 11/08/2009 8:28:00 AM PST by jgophel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 746 | View Replies ]


To: jgophel

Oh, by the way. Republicans don’t care about any of these real issues. They just care about being perceived as putting up a good enough fight in order to get reelected so they can do the stealing that they do.


764 posted on 11/08/2009 8:34:52 AM PST by jgophel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 761 | View Replies ]

To: jgophel

Sorry. I’m not going to waste my time trying to convince idiots that vote for and support government-run (socialized) healthcare of anything. They are already too brainwashed with entitlement-minded idiocy or too self-invested and too self-serving to care about the welfare of anyone but themselves, not even at the cost of the entire nation.

I simply don’t have the patience (especially these days). If they’re too stupid to comprehend that the government can’t LEGALLY force anyone to carry insurance under the US Constitution, I can’t help them.

I think it’s past time for us to try to win the hearts and minds of the retarded. Don’t you?

It’s time for us to act and take back this country.


790 posted on 11/08/2009 10:34:12 AM PST by XenaLee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 761 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson