Posted on 11/07/2009 12:02:06 PM PST by Stoat
yet again the Govt thinks they have a right to say who is or what is good for someone’s child
No wonder I left that country and right now I am fighting tooth and nail to stop this country from turning into the old country
I grew up in a foster home and I know how social services work .
Believe me they are corrupt to the core
another thing
I went back after I left the military to see my old social workers and ask questions as to why they never sent the letters on from my real mother, why they never told me where she was or how to contact her.
I managed to get the letters at the age of 24 because by UK law they have to give me the paper work and low and behold they had letters in there addressed to me off my mother which were never sent on to me.
Still they would not give me all the info about her to my face and because of them thinking she was not a good enough mother I have now lost contact with my real mother and have no idea if she lives.
There are many other issues I have but that is just one of them to tell you all how the UK Govt decides who should be with their parents or not.
Government overstepping its bounds is always left-wing, because tyranny is left-wing.
I hope they fled the UK all together. From all of the interviews I’ve read from them they both seem plenty smart enough to raise their own child.Even if she wasn’t can’t her family and boyfriend help her?
A government big enough to give you everything you need, is big enough to take everything you have.
It can be seen that way but that view begs argument over endless irrelevancies. While those arguments ensue our freedom is frittered away by whomever.
I'm appreciating the trend to separate that which furthers freedom from that which furthers despotism, irrespective of political labels. Mark Levin, for one, has moved in that direction. His lingo has come to resemble (borrow from?) libertarian-speak from years back.
One thing to long ago attract me to libertarianism was the cutting through the crap of arbitrary labels to get to the meaningful issues of, ala Levin, liberty and tyranny.
No wonder I left that country and right now I am fighting tooth and nail to stop this country from turning into the old country
I grew up in a foster home and I know how social services work .
Believe me they are corrupt to the core
So I'm guessing you most likely feel that it's entirely likely that there's an active 'incentive' in place for the social workers to try to place as many children into the foster home / adoption system as they possibly can? This is all just sickening.
Britain stealing children for higher adoption numbers Fromtheold
A government big enough to give you everything you need, is big enough to take everything you have.
Absolutely true and an excellent reminder, thank you.
I joined the army at 16 to get out and away so that saved me.
My sister on the other hand ended up on drugs and I mean hard drugs who has lost her kids.
What they did to my sister and I was disgusting. I asked the social worker why did you leave us in a place where you knew we were being totally whacked every day with belts, straps, planks of wood etc in the last foster home and he said that they thought it might blow over.
No they just did not want to do more paper work and wanted to keep us away from our real mother.
MAYBE ONE day I will find out if she is alive but in the meantime I have 3 kids who will never go through any of that and they will not be living in a socialist country if I or the misses have anything to do with it.
This is stupid on the part of the “social worker.” Did I jump to a conclusion? Yes, I worked for 25 years as a Social Worker.
True Story: There was a woman of limited intelligence who regularly allowed men to have their way with her and got pregnant five times in the process. Every time, the Social Workers would take the baby from the hospital and she was not allowed to view the child. Finally a Supervisor with some sense was promoted to that position and decided that instead of removing the baby, our Homemakers should help the woman learn how to take care of the child and check on her daily to make sure the child was fed and properly clothed. They did that even to the point of one of the Homemakers checking in on the weekends, on her own time, and mentoring the intellectually-challenged woman.
Surprise of surprises, the new mother quit allowing men into her bed and became a very good mother and caretaker for the baby. All she wanted to do was raise a baby. And she agreed to a tubal ligation as well. She decided that one baby was all she could take care of . . . she made this decision on her own [perhaps with the gentle assistance of a Homemaker, I don’t know for sure].
This young girl may not be as “hoity toity” as the Social Worker, but I’ll wager that with guidance, she could become a very loving mother and wife.
What the Social Worker is doing is moral elitism. And she could have a family who has asked her to give them a newborn baby. Has happened MANY times in many places and still goes on today.
I’m full of Social Worker stories, most of them true.
I hate to draw this particular analogy as I know it's an overly-extreme one, but I am reminded of the situation in Germany where after the fall of the Wall and the beginning of reunification, it became apparent that there were millions of families who had been torn apart when East Germany had been created and so an entire Governmental entity (or rather numerous ones) had to be created in order to put peoples' lives back together...whether that might have been from families that were separated and had lost track of one another, political 'disappearances' or whatever. There was a huge amount of information maintained by the East German government which needed to be sifted through and disseminated to the proper people.
Since it seems that the people of Great Britain have finally had their fill of the Labour government and Conservatism is on the rise throughout the UK, my hope is that one day there will be a 'new openness' to finding information such as what you seek, where it will no longer be buried under mountains of impenetrable bureaucracy but will be given out in a new spirit of reconciliation between the British Government and the people.
I hope that one day you will get the answers you are looking for.
cheers
Thank you so much...your perspective and insights are sincerely appreciated.
If you are not married men have very few rights if the mother dies. On the other hand if they split up he has to provide for the child until the child is of age. Many couples who for whatever reason have decided not to marry but have children go to a solicitor and get a legal document drawn up in the event of one of them dying to allow the other to bring the child/children up.
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