At mosque attended by suspect, anger and mourning

The Austin American Statesmen ^ | 11/07/09 | Joshunda Sanders

[Tzimisce]

So it turns out that you weren't actually interested in the correct answer after all... which is about what I expected.

Actually it is. Islam has a serious link to violence against other religions. That's what this attack is all about.

And when they do turn violent against other people, Mosques often circle the wagons. They want to define the attackers as "lone". Then they condemn US foreign policy as if all Americans are one block.

That's what this is all about: it's okay to stereotype certain people, which is what you're doing to me - but that's okay. I don't think I fall in any protected demographics....

[Clinging Bitterly]

btrl

[r9etb]

And yet this mosque did not circle the wagons -- in fact, they made themselves available for interviews. The people of this mosque did condemn the attack. And members of the mosque include active-duty and retired members of the military who proudly serve(d) in the US Army.

What more do you want from them?

[ReneeLynn]

I think the doctor should be assuring YOU that he is not like this man. Otherwise I see no point in saying anything to him.

[TexasBeth]

Exactly!

[Vendome]

 

As Austin Imam Islam Mossaad said Thursday, when news of the shooting spread, Muslims in Central Texas all hoped that the gunman did not share their faith (why would they even think that?  Aren't they stereotyping?). But when members of Killeen's Islamic community learned that Hasan had been among them for prayers at Ramadan a couple of months ago, they said it deepened their anxiety that his actions could have a lasting effect on their peace-loving community.

"Islam promotes peace and equality, and violence has nothing to do with that," Kamal said. "I hope that people won't start stereotyping, since that's what people tend to do."

 

Really?  Then your community has an image problem and needs to clean it up.

 

 

[Tunehead54]

More like... we have disabled commenting because we're tired of having our pansy-ass article ridiculed.

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Exactly thanks! ;-)

[TexasBeth]

I think that’s exactly what he did in this article. They allowed pictures to be taken inside the prayer service. They were interviewed. They condemned the act. Dr. Farooqi earned my respect years ago and needs to do nothing more to keep it.

[Tzimisce]

Really? Think so?

[ReneeLynn]

I just find it odd that you’d reassure him. I mean, if a member of a Christian congregation does something awful do you go up to a parishoner or the priest/paster/reverend and say, “I know you’re not like that.”?

[TexasBeth]

Maybe so, but if the reaction from the community is anything like what I’ve seen here, he may appreciate a kind word. You know....Do unto others and all that.

[mc5cents]

He is one of the most kind an gentle men I’ve ever met.

Now where have I heard that before?..... “... is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.”

Oh, I remember. The movie The Manchurian Candidate!

[Tzimisce]

Think so?

What more do I want from them? How about a SINCERE condemnation?

[Tzimisce]

I’m curious: why are defending these people?

When they shoot us, they’re victims and it’s our fault.

When we shoot them, we’re just showing how evil and intolerant we are.

The Islamic community has done very, very little to try to stem the tide the violence Muslims perpetrate against their neighbors. When an incident like this happens, they always defend themselves by pointing to US foreign policy.

The truth is no nation has done more for Muslims. Is ANYONE really upset that Saddam is gone?

Is anyone in Afghanistan upset that the Taliban is out of power?

These people engaged in torture and hostility and other “war crimes” against their neighbors.

Also - note that they really do find acceptance and tolerance here in the US. This story is about a guy who EVERYONE KNEW had sympathy for the 9-11 terrorists. EVERYONE KNEW that he was posting sympathy for terrorist causes on the internet. And yet, NO ONE said or did anything about it.

Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh is halted from owning a football team because of some made up quotes attributed to him.

It’s the ultimate double standard.

What more do I want from them? How about tolerance: real tolerance. How about a little understanding? How about a little kindness, decency and respect?

Why are you taking up for these people? I haven’t done anything to them and yet many either want to kill me or have sympathy for those who do.

And you sit here acting like you have the moral high ground?

[r9etb]

I’m curious: why are defending these people?

Because "these people" didn't shoot anybody, and you're still blaming them for it. Is it any wonder that they're nervous about the reaction, when you and others are already so amply justifying their fears?

I'm not going to mince words with you, FRiend. You're doing what that Nazis did: hold an entire group of people responsible for something, on account of their religion.

For all the folks yelling about the health care plan, the real danger to the Republic lies in attitudes like yours.

You can count me out of that.

[LeonardFMason]

Who doubts that when push comes to shove these “good” Muslims would kill any non-Muslim American they can.

[Tzimisce]

Because "these people" didn't shoot anybody, and you're still blaming them for it. Is it any wonder that they're nervous about the reaction, when you and others are already so amply justifying their fears?

As I said earlier: when they shoot us, it's okay we deserve it.

How many innocent people did this guy kill? How many of them actually shot someone? I doubt he paused to consider whether or not they did.

But of course, it's not a crime when he does it. It's not even worth condemning - which is my point.

Can you blame non Muslims for being nervous when they see reports like this?

I'm not going to mince words with you, FRiend. You're doing what that Nazis did: hold an entire group of people responsible for something, on account of their religion.

F**K YOU!

They have no problems holding Americans responsible for every ill in the Middle East. What does that make them? And you're defending them, what does that make you?

[DownInFlames]

Hey dummy, he’s listed on the Homeland Security document as a participant of the transition team. It’s idiots like you who try to minimize the impact of terrorists and their supporters.

[EDINVA]

Before you call names it’d help if you knew what you are talking about. Clearly, you don’t, so I shall let it pass.

[DownInFlames]

Sorry. Very bad week.