Posted on 11/07/2009 2:27:08 AM PST by RobinMasters
Apparently Rep. Deal knew he was going to stir up quite the proverbial hornets nest by seriously suggesting that he was going to ask the President to see his birth certificate. So, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (h/t PeachPundit), the castigations are now beginning.
As you read through what I post from the article, below, Im going to interject my own commentary into what the included public figures say, because I think most of them are seriously full of it; the idea that somehow someone is considered to be, essentially, other than rational for daring to question the President is, itself, asinine:
I have looked at the documentation that is publicly available and it leaves many things to be desired, Deal said in an interview Friday.
Deals statement came a day after he noted in an online chat that he would join other U.S. House members in writing the president and asking that he release a copy of his birth certificate.
(Excerpt) Read more at therightsideoflife.com ...
If nothing else, it proves that the whole issue is being talked about among congressmen for some reason.
Yes. My thinking is that these congressmen see the weakness of Pres. Obama and see an entre for opposing Health Care reform and other Socialist bills in the pipeline.
If the birth certificate issue can be exploited then why not try that route. There are several other routes they could try but go with THE ONE issue that is the foundation; is my President really native born and legally eligible.
Really? How's that working out for you? I presume you have had a lot of success lately mobilizing public opinion? Obviously you are fixed in your determination to just keep on doing what you have been doing, all the while hoping for a different result. Under no circumstances should you reach out for a new idea when the old one is working so well.
Incidentally, if you took a moment to think about it, the argument about blackmail is not whether it would have an effect on Obama but whether it would have effect on persuading the public in general that they a commander in chief and chief executive officer who is vulnerable to blackmail. It puts Obama in the position of having to come forward and defend an indefensible position. He arguably risks the security of the nation by withholding the documents while he puts forward no reasonable justification.
It provides a justification for the demand for the documents which makes it more difficult for Obama to play the race card to avoid the issue which he has done with 100% success so far.
Do I think is a silver bullet? No, of course not. It's just one more argument that might get a few more percent of the public thinking our way. It does not require anyone to abandon any constitutional principle except Obama. If you like, if it makes you feel more comfortable, you could argue that the natural born citizenship requirement is in the Constitution precisely, if only partly, to ensure that the president is not vulnerable to blackmail or foreign influence.
Tyrant 0bama gets weaker every day. He was brain addled the other day when he spent one minute sucking up to our Indians then he gave an ghetto “shout out” to some Indian before honoring our servicemen murdered by 0bama’s fellow Muslim. 0bama’s teleprompter had a bad day or 0bama is awful when he wings it
The weaker 0bama gets the better we can pressure him to release his birth certificate. Plus any blow back from a 100% OK birth certificate becomes less as the charlatan gets weaker
PING!
See? more like drive.
Why is it that everything 0bama has done has:
A. weakened America
B. strengthened islam
C. attacked Israel
or any combination of the above?
Or maybe Im delusional? Can anyone cite something hes done that doesnt fit A, B, or C?
(SJackson has dibs on: He bought a Portuguese water dog.)
Two things;
In the comments section they say Hawaii only issues “Certifications”.
I could swear someone had a “Certificate” of Live Birth issued after 2001
As horrible a Roe v Wade is, why can’t we use that strategy to “codify” eligibility?
Nully, he has and is doing ALL of the items you mentioned. However, the most dangerous of all is attacking Isreal and not supporting her. THAT in itself will cause GOD Himself to bring a CURSE on the United States. In what form, we will see but most likely in a devestating attack, Civil uprsising and total bankruptcy. He’s a real fraudulent Gem alright!! /Major sarc. CO
December 3, 2008
Thank you for contacting me. I appreciate hearing from
you and welcome this opportunity to respond.
As you may know, Hawaii became a state on August 21st,
1959. President-elect Barack Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961,
making him a United States citizen at birth under the first section
of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. President-elect
Obama’s birth certificate has been made public, and is widely
available online. This document has been authenticated by a
variety of sources, including the Hawaii Department of Health and
the Annenberg Public Policy Center.
I hope this information proves useful to you. If I can be of
assistance to you in any other matters, please do not hesitate to
contact me.
Sincerely,
Herb Kohl
U.S. Senator
He tightened up his golf handicap and ate ice cream.
U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal and "several colleagues" to ask Obama to release birth certificate
Game on!
TANKS,Nully,,,
Mite need mo’popcorn...;0)
As if that is not justification enough.
If the 'sureme law of the land' is not sufficient, let the masses feel the sting of Obama's policies--as they shortly will--and the thought of nullifying all the usurper has signed will be as attractive as a cool clear jug of water to a man dying of thirst.
“sureme”=”supreme”
Of course it's not enough. If it were enough you would already have the documents on the Internet for everyone to see. I can only repeat the reply I made to PubliusMM who also projects onto me a supposed cavalier disregard for the Constitution. Nothing I said in any way justifies that presumption.
Here is the reply:
"What other justification is required?"
Really? How's that working out for you? I suppose you have had a lot of success lately mobilizing public opinion? Obviously you are fixed in your determination to just keep on doing what you have been doing, all the while hoping for a different result. Under no circumstances should you reach out for a new idea when the old one is working so well.
Incidentally, if you took a moment to think about it, the argument about blackmail is not whether it would have an effect on Obama but whether it would have effect on persuading the public in general that they a commander in chief and chief executive officer who is vulnerable to blackmail. It puts Obama in the position of having to come forward and defend an indefensible position. He arguably risks the security of the nation by withholding the documents while he puts forward no reasonable justification.
It provides a justification for the demand for the documents which makes it more difficult for Obama to play the race card to avoid the issue which he has done (indirectly) with 100% success so far.
Do I think is a silver bullet? No, of course not. It's just one more argument that might get a few more percent of the public thinking our way. It does not require anyone to abandon any constitutional principle except Obama. If you like, if it makes you feel more comfortable, you could argue that the natural born citizenship requirement is in the Constitution precisely, if only partly, to ensure that the president is not vulnerable to blackmail or foreign influence.
It is inconceivable to me that you would want your fellow citizens to suffer simply because they do not see things your way:
If the 'sureme law of the land' is not sufficient, let the masses feel the sting of Obama's policies...
Let them eat cake?
You might be able to get away with arrogance toward the unwashed "masses" but you will not get away with projecting your self-righteousness toward me.
Apparently you misinterpreted my intent. I AM one of the 'unwashed masses'.
If the Consrtitution is not reason enough, then we have no Republic.
When we feel the pain, then perhaps snactimonious keyboard commandos and couch potatoes will get off their supersized butts and pay attention, who knows maybe even do something? Until then, sir, bread and circusses will more than suffice for those who can so conveniently ignore the seminal document from which all lawful and just governmental power is derived. Without that document, that Constitution, there is neither lawful nor just governmental power at the federal level, and the republic is void.
If that is not enough cause, what is?
let’s face it, whole sections of the country are indifferent to the Constitution.
***I have found that there are whole sections of FREE REPUBLIC which are indifferent to the constitution. And FR was originally a constitutionalist website.
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