This pistol's design origins were in the PDW project, (according to Ezell) originally in one of the miniature .22 (5.7mm)chamberings. They are really easy to shoot if you can stand the muzzle blast.
Posted on 11/06/2009 9:50:24 PM PST by myknowledge
WASHINGTON — A 5.7-millimeter pistol used in the Fort Hood shooting was purchased legally by suspect Nidal Hasan at a Texas gun shop, law enforcement officials said Friday.
Army Col. John Rossi, deputy commander at Fort Hood, confirmed at a news conference late Friday in Texas that the two weapons carried by Hasan were not military arms, but "privately owned weapons ... purchased locally."
He said more than 100 rounds were fired during the attack.
Records indicate Hasan bought the FN 5.7 at store called "Guns Galore" in Killeen, Texas, in recent months and that gun was used in the attack that left 13 people dead, one of the officials said. The pistol has been dubbed a "cop killer" by those who have tried to stop its use.
The law enforcement officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.
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Well, it does do one thing right - with the AP ammo, it will zip right through body armor, which was the point of the cartridge, and which 9mm AP generally won’t do.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to do anything else well.
Continued: If he really wanted to go to town and preserve his options, he should have gotten something like the OA-93, which fires the 5.56 NATO rifle round in a ‘pistol’. That would have worked on armored and unarmored personnel just fine.
Sometimes you must praise God for the opponent’s incompetence...
Perhaps, but eleven inches of penetration and a four inch permanent wound channel is significant. What isnt known is which ammo he was using. If he was using the LF ammo, then it is significantly lower energy also. Ballistic tests are just that—tests. Only surgical terminal performance results will really tell anything, that is why I said it would be interesting to see the policewomans reports.
Well, there were reports of people at the scene who were shot with through-and-through torso or limb hits that didn’t have significant internal injury, so I’m tending to seriously doubt that testing.
That’s what the guy said,firing out of battery. Of course once he mentioned it he was using reloads, FN said it voided the warranty and he was at fault. He should have kept his mouth shut. I didn’t know there were several cases of it firing out of battery. I saw a picture of the one I am referring to and it blew up in his hand.
It’s not hard to check - go find a FiveSeveN, unload it, pull the slide back about an eighth to a quarter inch and pull the trigger. There’s a pretty good chance you’re going to hear what one person once described to me as “a deafening click”. Three out of the five that I’ve gotten my hands on did.
Do you have a way to get any of those reports? It would be valuable info. I’m not a fan of much of anything .22, other than for rats and coyotes, much preferring the tried and proven .45. My experience with .222 and .223 is that they are shallow penetrators with wicked, wicked wound channels. The .222 will penetrate the near side of a coyote, and homogenize the internal organs, and not exit, leaving only one small hole in the hide. The 5.7 lacks the velocity of the .222 by 1500 fps, so it is in fact a pretty close match to the .22 Hornet. Beef and pork respond differently than human flesh also. Again, it would be interesting to see the victims wounds.
I find it hard to believe that with so many people around, he could reload that thing at least FIVE times without someone taking him out. He had to fire 20 times, insert a new mag, and repeat 4 more times. Hard to believe he could do that on a base with so many others around. I’m still not buying the story that he acted alone.
No, they were on local broadcast media and I didn’t record them.
Initial news reports said that there were others involved who then ran to an adjoining building. The reports said that those people were apprehended but then released, then the stories were pulled. There is already a lot of coverup going on in the bureaucratic little PC world of Fort Hood.
This pistol's design origins were in the PDW project, (according to Ezell) originally in one of the miniature .22 (5.7mm)chamberings. They are really easy to shoot if you can stand the muzzle blast.
Well, everyone but Hasan was unarmed, until Sgt. Kim Munley incapacitated him.
I’ve fired one. A friend that is a detective has one and I’ve fired it at the range. I’m going to tell him about this tomorrow. The only thing I liked was that it was fairly accurate and the recoil is extremely low.
The History channel will do a special on it in about a year. Autopsy reports puts a lot of speculation to rest.
Well, everyone but Hasan was unarmed
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That’s the problem and it shouldn’t be
I agree. They said the lone gunman was dead then hours later he wasn’t. Something very fishy.
Already asked on another thread, but here goes anyway, Can you C/C on base??
No.
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