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N.J. Court Says Americans Have No Right To Buy Handguns
CBS ^ | 10/28/2009 | CBS

Posted on 11/05/2009 9:03:07 AM PST by mikelets456

A New Jersey appeals court has concluded that Americans have no Second Amendment right to buy a handgun.

In a case decided last week, the superior court upheld a state law saying that nobody may possess "any handgun" without obtaining law enforcement approval and permission in advance.

That outcome might seem like something of a surprise, especially after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled last year in the D.C. v. Heller case that the Second Amendment guarantees "the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation."

But New Jersey Appellate Division Judge Stephen Skillman wrote on behalf of a unanimous three-judge panel that Heller "has no impact upon the constitutionality of" the state law.

That's because, Skillman said, the Supreme Court did not strike down the District of Columbia's de facto handgun ban but instead simply ordered the city to issue a permit. In other words, while Americans may have the right in general to possess arms, the exact contours of that right have not been mapped, especially as the Second Amendment applies to state laws. (The court's majority opinion last year said: "We therefore assume that petitioners' issuance of a license will satisfy respondent's prayer for relief and do not address the licensing requirement.")

Look for the Supreme Court to revisit this question in a few months when it hears a case called McDonald v. Chicago. It's a constitutional challenge to Chicago's restrictive gun laws, which prohibit anyone from possessing firearms -- even in their homes -- "unless such person is the holder of a valid registration certificate for such firearm."

New Jersey's laws are similar. They say: ......

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; handgun; laws; nj
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1 posted on 11/05/2009 9:03:08 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: All

As a citizen of the United States of America, I answer only to laws that adhere to the Constituion.
I reject the findings of any court who refute the Law of the Land.
Please co-sign, my fellow Freepers....


2 posted on 11/05/2009 9:05:15 AM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: mikelets456

I left that state 35 years ago and have never looked back.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 9:06:49 AM PST by Mouton
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Phooey.

Gun-up!


4 posted on 11/05/2009 9:07:10 AM PST by onedoug
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That is just the kind of statement that might make SCOTUS confirm that the 2nd is incorporated against the states.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 9:08:07 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: mikelets456

Now there is a third world cesspit overdue for a regime change.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 9:09:05 AM PST by magslinger (Deja Mue- The feeling that you have heard this bull before.)
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To: Maverick68

Happy Guy Fawlks’ Day.


7 posted on 11/05/2009 9:09:08 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Absolute idiots. If this doesn't point to an out-of-control judiciary, I don't know what does.

This is not an American court; it's a European court -- rights are not God-given but are given to subjects at the whim of those in power.

8 posted on 11/05/2009 9:11:00 AM PST by Jerrybob
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Screw em. Go out of state and buy enough to fill your trunk........


9 posted on 11/05/2009 9:11:44 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: onedoug
Absolute idiots. If this doesn't point to an out-of-control judiciary, I don't know what does.

This is not an American court; it's a European court -- rights are not God-given but are given to subjects at the whim of those in power.

10 posted on 11/05/2009 9:11:45 AM PST by Jerrybob
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Another day, another travesty from some crooked, degenerate, megalomaniacal black-robed bastard.


11 posted on 11/05/2009 9:12:36 AM PST by VR-21 (Down to the stones, where old ghosts play.)
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Good point. It IS NJ after all.


12 posted on 11/05/2009 9:13:07 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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Skillman...another Harvard “genius”...indoctrinated in Communism/Socialism/Marxism...and I’d bet dollars-to-donuts that his ancestors were Jewish... those who should have been armed to the teeth in 1930’s Germany.


13 posted on 11/05/2009 9:13:18 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: mikelets456
The RATS are getting scared that they just might find themselves in a real revolution.
14 posted on 11/05/2009 9:13:47 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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“In other words, while Americans may have the right in general to possess arms, the exact contours of that right have not been mapped, especially as the Second Amendment applies to state laws.”

“...the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

How F’ing hard is it to understand???


15 posted on 11/05/2009 9:14:22 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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Headline is incorrect. A state court interpreting state law said New Jerseyans (New Jerseyites?) have no right to buy handguns. As they were not interpreting federal laws, they weren’t speaking about the entire country.

The idiocy of not incorporating the entire bill or rights at once is still having an effect. Hopefully the SC will correct this this term.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 9:14:39 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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MOLON LABE!!


17 posted on 11/05/2009 9:14:48 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-G. Orwell)
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If “shall not be infringed” isn’t clear enough, it’s because they are trying to misunderstand the law of the land.


18 posted on 11/05/2009 9:16:13 AM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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I guess New Jersey has declared itself independent from the United States Consititution.


19 posted on 11/05/2009 9:16:35 AM PST by NorwegianViking
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NJ courts would be wrong.


20 posted on 11/05/2009 9:16:35 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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