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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”The Dems have already threatened “reconciliation,” i.e. 51 votes. Bill Clinton told them that the details don't matter — just pass something!

Clinton is right about them having to pass something (for Obama not them, Clinton made his own congress walk the plank) but I don't think reconciliation will help them do it. I have heard many democrats on MSNBC ruin the progressives day by telling them that reconciliation wont work for that type of reform. Bush used it for tax cuts, that's why they expire automatically.

I have been calling that the ‘empty gun on the table’. Progressives demand the Senate use it, every night on MSNBC. I think they want the Senate to completely change the Senate rules as republicans threatened to, to allow it to be passed.

The bigger threat is budget conference report which gives Blue Dogs cover to vote against it then.

86 posted on 11/11/2009 1:52:38 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

Right to the Supreme Court.


87 posted on 11/11/2009 3:37:46 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; AmericanInTokyo
The bigger threat is budget conference report which gives Blue Dogs cover to vote against it then.

They should play Kabuki music in the capitol. (I saw a live Kabuki preformance in Tokyo. The most memorable moment was when one of the characters stuck a sword through the wall, and a huge amount of blood came out from the hidden victim). "Cover" to vote for it or vote against it is one of the preposterous themes.

The CBO, which has to swallow the lie that they are going to cut $500B from medicare, gives congresscrooks "cover" with ignorant voters who think that it would not increase the deficit.

88 posted on 11/11/2009 4:10:38 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: sickoflibs

I’m just glad this won’t pass by up and up means. The Democrats are going to have to play games to shove it through, and even at that over the objections of their own party members.

Let it be remembered that the Republican party had no part in this.

If the vote is know beforehand and it’s clear the Republicans don’t have a chance, I would urge them to walk out and not participate in the vote.

Make it as clear as it possibly could be how this thing was passed, without Republican input, and over their unified objection as well as a number of Democrats.

When we get a new president, if he’s a Republican he better start on day one by absolutely trashing what this child has been up to for four or eight years.

If he/she doesn’t, they’ll have lost me on day two.


92 posted on 11/12/2009 9:22:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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