[This_far]

So, I don't think there is as clear a message from NY-23 as many here want to think.

Where'd you go? Enlighten us.

[LS]

"We know that RINOs won't win without conservatives. Is the reverse true? So far, Santorum, Talent, and now Hoffman suggest you need to have a lot going for you besides "pure conservatism" to win."

Where'd YOU go? I said this already. I don't think "more conservatism" is the answer, but rather, how do you sell all the OTHER aspects of conservatism to social liberals so they will provide the winning margin? The problem is social liberals want all the benefits of conservatism (security through national defense, strong economy, safe streets) without any of the pain of discipline (man/woman marriage, no abortion, death penalty).