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WP: Contests serve as warning to Democrats: It's not 2008 anymore
Washington comPost ^ | 11/4/2009 | Dan Balz

Posted on 11/04/2009 2:04:53 AM PST by markomalley

Off-year elections can be notoriously unreliable as predictors of the future, but as a window on how the political landscape may have changed in the year since President Obama won the White House, Tuesday's Republican victories in Virginia and New Jersey delivered clear warnings for the Democrats.

Neither gubernatorial election amounted to a referendum on the president, but the changing shape of the electorates in both states and the shifts among key constituencies revealed cracks in the Obama 2008 coalition and demonstrated that, at this point, Republicans have the more energized constituency heading into next year's midterm elections.

The most significant change came among independent voters, who solidly backed Democrats in 2006 and 2008 but moved decisively to the Republicans on Tuesday, according to exit polls. In Virginia, independents strongly supported Republican Robert F. McDonnell in his victory over Democrat R. Creigh Deeds, while in New Jersey, they supported Republican Chris Christie in his win over Democratic Gov. Jon S. Corzine.

For months, polls have shown that independents were increasingly disaffected with some of Obama's domestic policies. They have expressed reservations about the president's health-care efforts and have shown concerns about the growth in government spending and the federal deficit under his leadership.

Tuesday's elections provided the first tangible evidence that Republicans can win their support with the right kind of candidates and the right messages. That is an ominous development for Democrats if it continues unabated into next year. But Republicans could squander that opportunity if they demand candidates who are too conservative to appeal to the middle.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: macacapost; nj2009; obamaspin; slapdown; va2009; wacompost
Later in the article, it talked about how McDonnell and Christie ran to the center. The author also quoted Axelrod's attempt to spin it, but the spin was toward the end of the article...and was written so as to make it sound pretty weak.

All in all, ****considering it's from the comPost****, a pretty fair analysis.

1 posted on 11/04/2009 2:04:56 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
But Republicans could squander that opportunity if they demand candidates who are too conservative to appeal to the middle.

HAHAHAHA...

They never stop trying do they?

2 posted on 11/04/2009 2:11:03 AM PST by Ronin (Better an avowed enemy in front of me than a potential traitor beside me. NO RINOS!)
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To: markomalley
"Neither..race amounted to a referendum"

HA HA HA HA!!!

More like a serious beotch slap...

3 posted on 11/04/2009 2:22:51 AM PST by databoss (Keep The Change....)
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To: databoss
The MSM likes to derides conservatism. Both fiscal and social conservatism where in evidence last night. Traditional values were affirmed and voters opted for reduced taxation and spending and smaller government. When all is said and done this is still a center-right country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

4 posted on 11/04/2009 2:28:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: markomalley

They don’t have Bush to blame any more.

Therefore, they have nothing.


5 posted on 11/04/2009 2:44:42 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: Ronin

DID YOU HEAR US THIS TIME???


6 posted on 11/04/2009 2:58:52 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: markomalley
All in all, ****considering it's from the comPost****, a pretty fair analysis.

Except for this bit of cognitive dissonance:

Neither gubernatorial election amounted to a referendum on the president

but...

For months, polls have shown that independents were increasingly disaffected with some of Obama's domestic policies. They have expressed reservations about the president's health-care efforts and have shown concerns about the growth in government spending and the federal deficit under his leadership.

The norm has always been that a President's policies define him. With Obama, we keep getting this absurd distinction in the media: He's not unpopular, but his policies are.

7 posted on 11/04/2009 3:09:17 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: markomalley
"Neither election amounted to a referendum on the _resident..." LOL If he had won one it sure would have and you can bet on it.

Μολὼν λάβε


8 posted on 11/04/2009 3:16:44 AM PST by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: browardchad
Except for this bit of cognitive dissonance:

Remember the caveat: considering it's from the comPost

You have to expect the analysis to lean left...

9 posted on 11/04/2009 3:16:51 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: databoss

I love when they say that and the next word is “BUT”.


10 posted on 11/04/2009 3:29:15 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: markomalley
Neither gubernatorial election amounted to a referendum on the president

Keep stuffing that cotton in your ears.

11 posted on 11/04/2009 3:31:15 AM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Ronin; markomalley

>>>But Republicans could squander that opportunity if they demand candidates who are too conservative to appeal to the middle.

“HAHAHAHA... They never stop trying do they? “

What’s the laugh ? Conservatives nationally still only constitute about 40%. It takes 51% to win. That difference has to come from the center. Raving Paulism won’t get you that extra margin. Virginia shows sane sensible conservatives can, which is what they seem to be suggesting.

>>>All in all, ****considering it’s from the comPost****, a pretty fair analysis.

I’d agree, but it might have been satisfying if they had added a comment about their failed attempt to Macacca the republican.


12 posted on 11/04/2009 3:40:28 AM PST by tlb
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To: markomalley

In today’s world Conservatism = Traditional American values.


13 posted on 11/04/2009 3:51:14 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: markomalley

In today’s world Conservatism = Traditional American values.


14 posted on 11/04/2009 3:52:06 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: browardchad
He's not unpopular, but his policies are.

I think this has everything to do with race -- few folks want to say they don't "like" the first African-American president. They will, however, own up to disliking his policies. That works for me.
15 posted on 11/04/2009 4:24:21 AM PST by pettifogger
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I think this has everything to do with race -- few folks want to say they don't "like" the first African-American president.

And that's why he was the perfect candidate to foster such a radical agenda -- the criticism is muted by the kudzu of political correctness.

16 posted on 11/04/2009 4:36:10 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: markomalley
That is an ominous development for Democrats if it continues unabated into next year.
17 posted on 11/04/2009 4:37:06 AM PST by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: tlb
Virginia shows sane sensible conservatives can, which is what they seem to be suggesting.

Now you know darn well what you are I would consider to be a "sane sensible conservative" and what the Washington Post considers to be one are two completely different animals.

To Washington Post liberals, anyone to the right of McCain might as well be Genghis Khan. Hell, they praise McCain as a moderate now, but back when he was running against their demigod Obama (pre-Sarah), he might as well have been Conan the Barbarian.

What I was laughing about was the perpetually stated message that always comes out of the MSM -- be nice, be like US! Be moderate, do it OUR way. You want us to like you, DON'T YOU?

The unstated but always implied message is that Conservatives can only win if they promise NOT to act like conservatives.

I reject that.

18 posted on 11/04/2009 4:43:10 AM PST by Ronin (Better an avowed enemy in front of me than a potential traitor beside me. NO RINOS!)
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To: markomalley
White House senior adviser David Axelrod said Tuesday's races were in no way a reflection of public opinion about the president or his agenda. ..
"I don't think they portend long-term trends," he said.


"Twas Merely A Flesh Wound"

19 posted on 11/04/2009 6:27:23 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: markomalley
it talked about how McDonnell and Christie ran to the center.

Christie was seen as a mod in the primary. Then Corzine comes out with these ads saying Christie is "against a women's right to choose" and against embryonic stem cell research and against gun control. LOL. AFAIK, Christie never ran way from those charges. It didn't seem to hurt him.

20 posted on 11/04/2009 7:56:31 AM PST by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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