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NY-23 2009: America has changed [Hoffman concedes defeat to Owens]
Doug Hoffman for Congress ^ | 2009-11-04

Posted on 11/03/2009 9:58:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: April Lexington

personally, I am sick of the pub or conservative always being nice.....Hoffman should have waited until the votes were counted....


101 posted on 11/03/2009 10:41:31 PM PST by cherry
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To: Psalm 144

Didn’t BO put his name on both the NJ and Virginia races. I know he at least did in Virginia. That wasn’t just a rejection of Deeds, that was an overwhelming rejection of BO.


102 posted on 11/03/2009 10:41:41 PM PST by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

defeatism = failure


103 posted on 11/03/2009 10:41:44 PM PST by Z in Washington
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To: Jeb21

Oooh, you haven’t seen the arguments yet. Give it time.

Rubio can’t win moderates, dontchaknow, just like Hoffman in NY23 couldn’t...

That’s only the beginning...


104 posted on 11/03/2009 10:42:20 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Conservatives come close to scoring 2 victories in NY 23!

Losing the second challenge by only a small percentage, Hoffman and
the Thompson team were triumphant in the primary battle against
the bankrupt, parasitic ideology that is destroying the GOP.
105 posted on 11/03/2009 10:43:19 PM PST by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

You don’t think we taught the GOP a lesson???? I disagree..We knocked their candidate out cold.

And then to rub salt in the wounds their candidate endorsed the RAT!

The conservative lost to the rat but he beat the RINO and even though he came out of nowhere he got national support.


106 posted on 11/03/2009 10:43:42 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: kevao
The absolutely worst result for the RNC tonight, would have been a Hoffman victory.

They were petrified of that prospect.

Why?

Because it would have meant third party conservatives challenging GOP social liberals nationwide.

The thing is...

...that can still happen.

107 posted on 11/03/2009 10:44:23 PM PST by Z in Washington
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To: jeltz25

Don’t talk to me. Talk to the RINOs who will be telling every squishy Republican that Rubio is ‘extreme’ just like Hoffman and can’t win independents. After all, it’s been proven now for all to see. Even if Rubio does win the primary, we’ll have the asshats in our own party calling him ‘extreme’ to election day just to torpedo him.


108 posted on 11/03/2009 10:44:54 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

until we see the exit polls we dont know how Hoffman did with moderates.

He may well have won them and lost anyway.

I think Dede endorsing the dem really tipped the scales in the end. That was the key event.

lets wait for that and then we can make some judgments


109 posted on 11/03/2009 10:45:19 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
I'm spinning nothing...just can't stand men that whine and moan.
110 posted on 11/03/2009 10:46:20 PM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
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To: Aria

I think that any lesson we taught them will be lost and I think that they will go right back to trying to enslave us as they have for so many years. I wish it weren’t so, but that’s what I think.


111 posted on 11/03/2009 10:49:10 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: roses of sharon

Oh, my bad. I guess I should pretend it’s fantastic so I’m one of the ‘men you like’.

Good news is that they voted your kind out of Maine tonight. (just kidding:))


112 posted on 11/03/2009 10:50:31 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: rabscuttle385
"I urge that no one feel defeated, for this was only one of many elections. We came close, we put our agenda in front of the nation and the nation took notice. The worse thing we could do now, is not continue forward. Next year there are other elections and other candidates who have drawn inspiration from our efforts."

That's a excellent statement, and one that shows that Mr. Hoffman always knew this race wasn't about HIM, but about the direction of this country. He's right in that this race DID put the dangers we're facing front and center into the public's consciousness, and to have come so far, so fast, just shows that his ideas resonated with his district.

113 posted on 11/03/2009 10:50:44 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

You sound like you’re watching the CNN talking heads. Don’t listen to their spin (or is it just the spin in your head?).

Still a great night for conservatives in America. Sends a very strong message-two governors!


114 posted on 11/03/2009 10:50:57 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Really? I haven’t watched them. Maybe I can convert to leftism and have a career as a ‘journalist’. :)


115 posted on 11/03/2009 10:52:11 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well, he did expose ol' Scuzzy for the extreme RINO that she was...possibly taking Mr. Newt as collateral damage.

It was a very interesting race.

116 posted on 11/03/2009 10:54:59 PM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
but my team’s hopes of fixing what’s wrong with the GOP lost in a bad way.

Oh, I don't agree at all. The GOP candidate faltered badly, because she was just too liberal for that district. The National GOP didn't pick her, but they went along, because they've been laboring under the false notion that conservatives didn't stand a chance in the Northeast. Hoffman made an excellent showing, and it proves that with a bit more effort on the part of the GOP, a conservative COULD pull out a win.

117 posted on 11/03/2009 10:55:00 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

From the looks of your posts here, you very well could fit in.


118 posted on 11/03/2009 10:57:12 PM PST by Cedar
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To: SuziQ

Inside the beltway, conservatives needed this win. They’re going to get pounded over the head with this by the ‘moderate first’ crowd. I appreciate the desire to put the best foot forward, but this is a huge setback.


119 posted on 11/03/2009 10:58:10 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Aria

You don’t think we taught the GOP a lesson???? I disagree..We knocked their candidate out cold.

And then to rub salt in the wounds their candidate endorsed the RAT!

The conservative lost to the rat but he beat the RINO and even though he came out of nowhere he got national support.


And came within a deuce of winning. Rovian is correct about GOP apparatchiks spinning this, but their arguments will sound less impressive while they hold their broken, swollen, bloody noses to deliver it. We gained ground, even if we failed to sweep the field.


120 posted on 11/03/2009 10:58:14 PM PST by Psalm 144 (FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I AM PROUD OF NEW JERSEY!)
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