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The GOP should dump the neocons
The Los Angeles Times ^ | November 3, 2009 | Edward H. Crane

Posted on 11/03/2009 4:34:29 PM PST by presidio9

The founders envisioned a federal government constitutionally limited to defending our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. For that to happen, we must have at least one political party that strongly advocates limiting the power of government. For much of the 19th century, that party was the Democrats. For the early part of the 20th century and from the early 1960s through 1988, that party was the Republicans.

Today, it is difficult to find noninterventionists in either party.

The Democrats demonstrate a disdain for capitalism, free trade and the validity of contracts. They cheer the restriction of certain types of speech on campus and in federal law, and think nation-building is our moral obligation, even when there is no discernible U.S. interest involved. Lately, the Democrats have been popularly associated with principled opposition to waging war in far-flung corners of the globe. But evidence on the ground today tells a somewhat different tale.

As for the GOP,

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; gopfuture; libertarian
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1 posted on 11/03/2009 4:34:29 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Some of us still remember 911.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 4:36:13 PM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: JHBowden

A federal government that focused on national defense instead of everything else would have done a better job on 9/11.


3 posted on 11/03/2009 4:38:59 PM PST by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: presidio9

For starters the GOP needs to drop it’s Democrats.


4 posted on 11/03/2009 4:39:24 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat

...and not look for advice in the LA Times.


5 posted on 11/03/2009 4:40:51 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: JHBowden

So because of 911 we just throw the Constitution out the window?


6 posted on 11/03/2009 4:41:00 PM PST by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: Buchal

Fight them over there, or fight them here.

It is that simple.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 4:41:18 PM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: presidio9

democrats, since Jefferson never limited gov intrustion.

Dem’s have never passed a law controlling or holding its own government accountable, it only passes laws, taxes and restrictions on private business.

From 1994 to 2000 this was 50% republican.

Now the GOP has joined the Dem’s to ensure they only pass laws and taxes on the American people and never hold government accountable.


8 posted on 11/03/2009 4:42:43 PM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: aynrandfreak; Cheetahcat

Edward H. Crane is the founder and president of the Cato Institute. Cato is pretty libertarian as think tanks go, but Crane is definitely not an LA Times employee. The WSJ has published pieces by Jimmy Carter and Al Gore.


9 posted on 11/03/2009 4:43:30 PM PST by presidio9 (I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday -WC Fields)
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To: JHBowden

so does Silverstein..he remember 9-11 real good...billions good...So does the Fed...won’t use Fed dollar for oil...BOOM...check out architects and engineers for 911 truth...their leader is a Reagan republican,,,,we been had my friend...check out George Herbert Walker bush calling for the new world order on Sept. 11th 1991...10 years to the day...there is real evil afoot my friend..Long live the republic!!!!against all enemies foreign AND domestic.


10 posted on 11/03/2009 4:43:44 PM PST by usshadley (Orwell was an Optimist)
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To: usshadley

We used to have badass Americans like Grant and Patton.

Now we have morons who blame themselves for the violence of the enemies.

No wonder we now have the George McFly foreign policy.


11 posted on 11/03/2009 4:45:18 PM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: edcoil
democrats, since Jefferson never limited gov intrustion.

God I love it when someone points out for the benefit of the uneducated that Thomas Jefferson was not a Conservative. The Conservatives of his time were all Federalists.

12 posted on 11/03/2009 4:45:26 PM PST by presidio9 (I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday -WC Fields)
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To: JHBowden

Fighting and nation building are two separate matters.


13 posted on 11/03/2009 4:47:35 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: JHBowden

The first two sentences of this propaganda. I couldn’t read any further.


14 posted on 11/03/2009 4:49:22 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: presidio9
As for the GOP, it has outwardly abandoned the limited-government principles of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.

Edward H. Crane ran Ed Clark's Libertarian Party campaign against Reagan in 1980.

He's not entirely wrong about the neocons: you don't want them running the show.

But start talking purges and everybody comes out with an axe to take out their own particular enemies.

15 posted on 11/03/2009 4:49:31 PM PST by x
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To: presidio9

The writers of the LAT as so mindless that they don’t even know what a neocon is.


16 posted on 11/03/2009 4:49:39 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ksen
So because of 911 we just throw the Constitution out the window?

Neo-conservatives weren't the ones who put the Patriot Act and other post 9/11 domestic measures into place. That was very much a bi-partisan effort, incorporating wish-lists of intrusion into people's lives from all across the political spectrum, along with some legitimate security measures.
17 posted on 11/03/2009 4:49:46 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: presidio9

I must say he had me going at the beginning. Started losing me as the article went on. The deal breaker is when he called David Brooks a Neocon. C’mon!


18 posted on 11/03/2009 4:51:16 PM PST by castowell ("I'm 95% cured" - BHO, 6/23/09)
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To: ksen

“So because of 911 we just throw the Constitution out the window?”

Never let a crisis go to waste.


19 posted on 11/03/2009 4:52:03 PM PST by dljordan
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To: presidio9

and the Democrats should drop the 0bamunists.


20 posted on 11/03/2009 4:52:39 PM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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