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Why you can't get swine-flu vaccine
NY Post ^ | November 3, 2009 | ROBERT GOLDBERG

Posted on 11/03/2009 3:09:53 AM PST by Scanian

The shortage of swine-flu vaccine results not from drug- company greed or outsize demand but almost entirely from the government's decision to pander to unfounded and unscientific fear.

As The Wall Street Journal reported last week, the US government set out to have the H1N1 vaccine produced largely in single-dose syringes -- a demand that has set back production considerably, because multidose vials are far easier to make.

And the only reason to seek single-dose production was to please people needlessly worried about the preservative thimerasol, which is used to provide multiple doses of the vaccine. The fear -- utterly groundless and repeatedly debunked is that thimerasol can cause autism and other neurological disorders in infants and other young children.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flu; flushot; fluvaccine; h1n1; influenza; publicfears; singledose; swineflu; swinefluvaccine; syringes; usgovt; vaccine
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1 posted on 11/03/2009 3:09:55 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I call BS. This is manufactured and I can guarantee there is an adequate supply for those deemed “important”. We, the cake eaters... How dare they let people die while they go on a world tour and feast.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 3:17:40 AM PST by momincombatboots (Tom Lyons: Son in Law, Husband Father 1988-2009 KIA 090809- Hero 2 me)
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To: Scanian
In 1999, the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control called for the maximum removal of thimerasol from vaccines -- even though both stated there was no scientific evidence of side effects. there are conflicting studies on both side of the arguement.

There fixed it.

either way this plays out this is a preview of Obamacare.

3 posted on 11/03/2009 3:23:35 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Scanian
And the only reason to seek single-dose production was to please people needlessly worried about the preservative thimerasol, which is used to provide multiple doses of the vaccine

Really? So the government wants to "please" people...

Bull Sh*t


4 posted on 11/03/2009 3:24:14 AM PST by Grumpybutt (Washington - the men and women of our GREAT MILITARY didn't volunteer to be political puppets!!!)
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To: momincombatboots
I call BS. This is manufactured and I can guarantee there is an adequate supply for those deemed “important”. We, the cake eaters... How dare they let people die while they go on a world tour and feast.

Uh, I think that pretty much is what the article is saying.

5 posted on 11/03/2009 3:25:47 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Grumpybutt

thimerasol is 50% mercury. that cannot be good for your body. and they use it only to save costs.


6 posted on 11/03/2009 3:27:07 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Scanian

Of course 0bama made sure there was enough for the detainees at Club Gitmo.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 3:29:13 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: epluribus_2

Oh I agree, and I think the gov’t knows how bad it is and doesn’t want any liability for what it may/may not do to us but more importantly to our children.

Just the fact that they removed it from other vaccines speaks volumes.

They don’t care so much about “pleasing” as they do covering their own butts.


8 posted on 11/03/2009 3:35:47 AM PST by Grumpybutt (Washington - the men and women of our GREAT MILITARY didn't volunteer to be political puppets!!!)
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To: epluribus_2
"..thimerasol is 50% mercury. that cannot be good for your body. and they use it only to save costs."

And the amount of thimerasol in the vaccine is minute (in the range of 1-10 ppm). Once diluted in the body, its effect is negligible. The autism connection has been examined repeatedly, and found to be nonexistent.

ALAR all over again.

9 posted on 11/03/2009 3:39:14 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Scanian

This guy doesn’t make sense. Number one, the first vaccine to be distributed was the mist...and it doesn’t contain thimerasol. Number two, some H1N1 shots are being produced w/out thimerasol, but not all.

I really didn’t understand what he was ranting about, and he didn’t have his facts straight.

nd finally as one


10 posted on 11/03/2009 3:50:48 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Scanian
I'll take my chances with the flu rather than inject into my body some chemical substance that is promulgated under the auspices of a corrupt Democrat administration.

Obama himself may as well be administering the vaccine as far as I'm concerned.

11 posted on 11/03/2009 3:52:36 AM PST by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: The Duke

Hmmmmm.....”promulgated” ... I must be channeling Henry Kissinger this morning!


12 posted on 11/03/2009 3:53:47 AM PST by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: momincombatboots

I agree, it’s all BS. Ginned up hype to create a demand for a questionable, possibly dangerous untested vaccination, which in the end will do more harm than good. One wonders if the intent is to cripple the population to the point where there’s another health care crisis created as a result of it. Don’t put anything beyond a Communist regime like the one running the US....for the moment...


13 posted on 11/03/2009 3:56:29 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Scanian

Hey c’mon guys how could you all let this one slip by?

BUSH’S FAULT!!!


14 posted on 11/03/2009 3:57:54 AM PST by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: Scanian
The thimerasol [mercury-based preservative] scare, disproved time and again [even rat poison is fine to ingest if only in minute amounts?], persists in part because the same public-health entities that encourage immunizations have made significant concessions [why make concessions if what they say is correct?] to small large including the #1 natural health Web site, persistent fear-mongering helpful-to-the-public-at-large activist groups here, here and here to name a few.
15 posted on 11/03/2009 4:02:55 AM PST by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: Grumpybutt
Just the fact that they removed it from other vaccines speaks volumes.

If it's been removed then why are they still blaming Thimerisol for Autism?

16 posted on 11/03/2009 4:03:55 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Scanian

Why You Can’t Get Flu Vaccine

1) We are giving it prisoners in Guantanamo Bay

2) We are giving 10% of the deliveries to foreign nations under a UN program

3) It is being run by the gov’t


17 posted on 11/03/2009 4:08:23 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Texas resident
Not this time .... here's the 'money' line:

Yet, despite this technological ability to adapt quickly to a pandemic threat, our system has been hamstrung by pseudoscience evangelists

18 posted on 11/03/2009 4:22:30 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: raybbr

I’m not a scientist and don’t pretend to be one. I don’t have any answers on any of it, only opinions. I’m not convinced on the thimerasol/autism link..... there’s still too many questions for me. The only continual link I could even vaguely imagine is perhaps mothers that took vaccines with Thimerasol sometime in their lives passed it through to their babies...???

Autism is real, we all know that. Could it be that it’s in the genes? Some children are more susceptible to chemicals than others? Is that why some children/adults who get the H1N1 die and others get a mild case?

Can research be done about the differences in our ancestry and race to determine who might be more at risk without a backlash of “racism” or “genocide” being thrown around? Is it even possible? Didn’t research confirm red headed people are harder to “put under” or “numb up” for medical/dental procedures? What about the RH factor test?

If I had to venture a guess, I’d say it’s in the genes... but then again, I’m no scientist.

:O)


19 posted on 11/03/2009 4:29:53 AM PST by Grumpybutt (Washington - the men and women of our GREAT MILITARY didn't volunteer to be political puppets!!!)
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To: MissMagnolia

there’s lots of killer chemicals in the flu shots.
Personally I think they were found out and had to make up another batch, not as deadly. imho


20 posted on 11/03/2009 4:36:33 AM PST by manonCANAL
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