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Charles LiMandri is the General Counsel for the National Organization for Marriage (www.NOMCalifornia.org). In that capacity he has been very active in the effort to pass a constitutional amendment to protect marriage in California which will be on the ballot in November 2008. He is a member of the Religious Liberty Committee of the California Catholic Conference of Bishops and he serves on an advisory committee to the White House on issues of importance to Catholics.
1 posted on 11/02/2009 7:44:04 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 11/02/2009 7:45:08 AM PST by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Obama stated: “You will see a time in which we as a nation finally recognize relationships between two men or two women as just as real and admirable as relationships between a man and a woman.” He went on to state: “We must all stand together against divisive and deceptive efforts to feed people’s lingering fears for political and ideological gain.”

Evil.

There's just no other word for that.

3 posted on 11/02/2009 7:58:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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Sounds like he’s preaching heterophobia.


4 posted on 11/02/2009 8:05:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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He further declared: “Among our greatest adversaries who actively work against us are the leaders of the Catholic, Mormon, and evangelical churches who seek to deny equal protection for us and for our children.”

News flash: two women cannot have children without artificial insemination or some other dodge. Two men cannot have children without a surrogate mother.

The queers need to quit pretending. They cannot have a normal family, they do not have a normal relationship. The "our children" quote above is flagrant BS.

No matter what you want to pretend, calling yourself a rowboat does not make you one.

5 posted on 11/02/2009 8:16:12 AM PST by jimt
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He has got it exactly right.


6 posted on 11/02/2009 8:19:15 AM PST by RobbyS (Chirho.)
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Repeat after me.... “Support Christian schools. Support Christian schools. Support Christian schools....”


10 posted on 11/02/2009 8:41:51 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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While intended to desensitize kids to homo issues, this will have the effect of causing serious psychological problems in many, many children as they struggle to figure our why “normal” is wrong. This indoctrination is child abuse, plane and simple. If we can't use these techniques at GITMO, why in heck can we force them on American school children?
11 posted on 11/02/2009 8:43:58 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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I was listening to a young woman on YouTube defending homosexuality. Sometimes its is informative to hear what proponents of homosexuality think or reason about things. Christian ethical teachings play no part in her defense of homosexuality. What some would call duty-based morality. Her view was that anything that occurs in nature is natural. Since homosexuality occurs in nature, it must be natural. She obviously does not believe that there is a purpose or order to creation. I would contend that something natural means that there divine purpose within creation. If you look at human sexual reproduction, you can see a natural “fit” so to speak, between a male and female.
14 posted on 11/02/2009 8:53:46 AM PST by Nosterrex
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Groups like GLSEN and the ACLU are now closer than ever to eradicating from the public schools all traces of the Judeo-Christian beliefs which have greatly influenced our American culture for over two centuries. The ACLU issued a statement in connection with the 2003 case of Lawrence v. Texas that said: “The religious beliefs of Americans have nothing to do with reality.” Moreover, ACLU Board Member, Franklin E. Kameny, had this to say in 1993: “I view homosexual activity . . . as moral, virtuous, right, and desirable.” This is apparently also the official view of the Obama administration.

We can all thank Libs, Gays, Lesbians, Obaba,and Bi-sexuals

and the ACLU

for the madness that you see in the above quote .......


15 posted on 11/02/2009 8:59:29 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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Simple explanation: 0bama is a muslim who hates Christianity and America.


16 posted on 11/02/2009 9:55:51 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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President Obama’s highly controversial Safe Schools Czar, Kevin Jennings, is concerned about the heterosexual indoctrination of children in our public schools.
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A topic that Rush, Beck, Hannity, OReilly, and Fox News in general will **completely** ignore!!!!

Such brave guys! ( sarc)

Remember, please, that these guys and gals are entertainers! They are actors and and posers. They are pretend patriots. When tyranny comes the above will be on their knees spit shining the jack boots crushing our necks.

20 posted on 11/02/2009 11:38:32 AM PST by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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We have homo advocate trolls right here on FR...

WallStreetCapitalist
Since Oct 16, 2009

"On gay rights: I try to be as pragmatic as possible on everything and here's what I believe thus far ... gay men aren't going to wake up and want to sleep with women (and visa versa for lesbians) anymore than I'm going to want to wake up and kiss some dude. 1.) I'm not going to tell them to be celibate because I wouldn't be if society told me I couldn't get married and have children. 2.) I wouldn't want a gay man marrying my daughter, when I'm eventually blessed to have one, because she deserves someone that desires her both in body and mind, no matter how much he said Jesus had changed his heart (and as someone who is saved, I believe fully in the conversion experience and forgiveness of Christ) 3.) Given these facts, as a civilization, monogamy and commitment are better than promiscuity, isn't refusing to provide protections to same sex couples is an irrational application of fairness because it attempts to punish what would be otherwise good behavior under the misguided notion that someone can wake-up and turn off all emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction??? This is what our Bible group has been discussing because the church isn't answering the question, "What do we do with these people?" As an employer, I've given this a lot of thought and gone through nearly every argument. Maybe it's that I'm young, but I just don't get the big deal - why are we as Republicans so freaking obsessed with this? Isn't abortion a bigger problem? And no, pedophilia, adultery, et al., isn't a valid comparison because of the legal notion of consent (a child can't consent), and an adulterer has the option to be in a sexual relationship with a spouse they love and adore; we are telling gays they can't."

Convoluted, twisted absurdity...

26 posted on 11/02/2009 2:01:13 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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You can go back and read the conversation for yourself; there were several other Christians and I that were having a discussion about Sodom the Bible (he claimed there was a verse that didn’t exist when it clearly did, in black and white, in Ezekiel) when the poster that wrote that to you (who is a self-proclaimed atheist) sent about 15 messages to me consecutively. After awhile, I gave up because my world view is shaped by my Christianity and I realized asking a question from a theological point of view from someone who doesn’t believe in the divinity of Christ is a pointless exercise. The foundation of my personal life is that Jesus Christ was the son of God and that I’m saved through His grace. Since we couldn’t agree on that basic premise, I realized I couldn’t actually have a conversation about the religious implications of homosexuality in America.

The longer I don’t respond to him, the more desperate he seems to get. It’s like he can’t help post on the topic.

You can read my posting history for yourself. I’m a Christian, and 99.99% conservative in everything from pro-life, pro-gun rights, lower taxes, and strong defense. Most of my topic postings are in economic and business. This particular conversation was about the demographic struggles we have as a conservative movement because even though I myself am a Christian and believe in the immorality of homosexuality, because of my age (in my mid-twenties), I find myself understanding the argument against government involvement on that one issue. If I was that way, I asked, what could we do to stop the demographic problems that we are facing as a nation (complaining about them isn’t going to do anything - we need an actual, concrete plan). Everyone wants to complain but no one has come up with a workable solution.

Read the other posters’ comments. He’s only interested in calling people racially degrading terms or saying what he’s against. He hasn’t pro-offered one, workable plan to actually get conservatives back in control of the government or work to maintain religious liberty in a world where people are being increasingly punished for their own rights (e.g., the Brookstone employee that was fired because he told his coworker he didn’t agree with her lesbian “marriage” because of his Christian beliefs). My world view is that we need to figure out how to change the laws and culture so that couldn’t happen; that employee must be allowed to remain faithful to his Christianity. The other poster is more concerned with killing the “fags” and excoriating them without providing any solution to the underlying problem. He thinks my attempt to find a workable, practical solution to the problem, combined with my realization that time is not on our side due to trends in voter beliefs by age, somehow makes me liberal.

If you take the time to read what I’ve said, you’re realizing that I in no way condone the behavior. I want to know what we, as conservatives and more importantly for those of us who are Christians, as Christians, are going to do to address the practical reality of the demographic problems we are facing. Ignoring them would be like Churchill pretending that Hitler was just having a “bad day”. It’s a recipe for disaster.

Frankly, I do not understand the emotional investment he has in the argument. It’s like he just can’t let it go.


30 posted on 11/02/2009 3:44:15 PM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

36 posted on 11/02/2009 6:40:23 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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Who knew “Romeo and Juliet” was subversive, brainwashing innocent children into heterosexual attitudes! Gosh, that’s just terrible. We must do something about this now! Ban “Romeo and Juliet,” and all Shakespeare! There’s alot of that indoctrination in those other guys too! Milton, Dickens, Henry James, oh my gosh, Evelyn Waugh! For the SAKE OF THE CHILDREN, we really must burn all the “great books” of Western Civilization. V-Monologues and such from now on will be the only “literature” admitted in schools and libraries. The shelves will be pretty empty, but the government can issue a 3 trillion dollar stimulus package for homosexual writers to fill them up quickly. Whew, I’m so glad I now understand how I’ve been simply brainwashed all my life by stuff like going to the prom or reading Peanuts cartoons.


37 posted on 11/02/2009 11:52:37 PM PST by baa39
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Groups like GLSEN and the ACLU are now closer than ever to eradicating from the public schools all traces of the Judeo-Christian beliefs which have greatly influenced our American culture for over two centuries

oh so true...and Barry Lynn of AFTSOTAS too..ADL as well

38 posted on 11/03/2009 12:02:45 AM PST by wardaddy (folks, these freepathons are taking too long tightwads, shame on us in front of the kooks)
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