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1 posted on 11/01/2009 5:56:26 PM PST by Steelfish
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Spine developing?


2 posted on 11/01/2009 5:59:23 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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bmp


3 posted on 11/01/2009 5:59:48 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Steelfish
Mr. Boehner said the Republican bill would also include a proposal to provide grants to states ...
He said the bill wouldn't raise taxes...


can someone splain this to me ?
4 posted on 11/01/2009 6:00:33 PM PST by stylin19a
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Is it 20,000 pages yet? What else is tacked onto it that has no relation to the title?


5 posted on 11/01/2009 6:00:49 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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Mr. Boehner said the Republican bill would also include a proposal to provide grants to states that use "innovative" solutions to expand insurance.

And how exactly do you plan to pay for those "grants," Boehner?

And, what's to prevent those "grants" from going to shore up otherwise failing state-level health care fascism, e.g., "Romneycare" in Massachusetts?

As far as I am concerned, this is more tomfoolery from the Stupid Party establishment. They have seen what is going on in NY's 23rd District, and they are running scared for their own political lives.

If Rep. Bonehead really wanted to be "innovative," he would get the Feds out of health care entirely!

DON'T TREAD ON ME!

6 posted on 11/01/2009 6:01:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Steelfish

Maybe they can get Dede and Newt to sell it for ‘em.


7 posted on 11/01/2009 6:05:16 PM PST by EternalVigilance (In NY-23, in mere weeks, the GOP went from 1st party, to 3rd party, to the vanishing point. *Poof*)
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To: Steelfish

Sort of late isn’t it?


8 posted on 11/01/2009 6:10:19 PM PST by goldi (')
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The best thing to do is nothing.

Anything the government does is a total screw up so if the Republicans offer nothing we’d be significantly better off, no one would have to post anything on-line to read, it would save paper, save tax payers money, we’d get to keep our own insurance and keep our own doctors.

Doing nothing makes sense...


9 posted on 11/01/2009 6:11:09 PM PST by maddog55 (The enemy is domestic and it's the government.)
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I think this is a mistake. Washington has no authority to control, fund or regulate the Health Industry. The only viable solution is for each State to remove it's restrictions on Health Insurers and allow any insurer to offer their services in each State.

Add in some tort reform at the Stat level and what the competition drive down the prices.

10 posted on 11/01/2009 6:12:10 PM PST by BRITinUSA
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It sounds good, but one has to ask why such a bill was not wheeled out months ago when all of this started.


11 posted on 11/01/2009 6:16:59 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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There are already healthcare bills done from our side... what’s wrong with those?


13 posted on 11/01/2009 6:19:45 PM PST by AliVeritas (Breaking the law, breaking the law; Breaking the law, breaking the law. Judas Priest)
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Is there going to come a point in time where the Republicans will realize that we do not want their brand of Health Care or the Democrats? We just want them to get the heck out of our way and let us solve these problems in the private sector. Just remove the barriers.


14 posted on 11/01/2009 6:24:28 PM PST by kempster
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Let’s see what really pops out of this.


22 posted on 11/01/2009 7:05:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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23 posted on 11/01/2009 7:33:39 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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The Democratic legislation, if passed, is estimated to expand coverage to more than 30 million Americans now without insurance

By making 20 million of them buy it.

24 posted on 11/01/2009 7:52:34 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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I wonder if anyone will propose legislation to allow companies to sell real insurance. A real insurance policy would provide that if a person develops various named conditions while the policy is in effect, the payment of premium up to that point will compel the insurance company to provide specified treatments for those conditions until they are fully resolved, no matter how long that takes; for some conditions, the company would be on the hook for treatment as long as the patient lives.

There would have to be a regulatory framework to define when various conditions will be deemed to originate. Most likely insurers would require customers to purchase insurance well in advance of its effective date in order to get the best rates; customers who want insurance to become effective quickly would have to submit to extensive medical testing and/or pay much higher premiums. (The basic idea here would be that if someone buys a cancer policy that will be effective a year after purchase, and such a person doesn't have obvious cancer when the policy goes into effect, it's unlikely that the person would have been hiding any pre-cancerous symptoms when the policy was purchased).

A system of real insurance would allow purchasers to decide what types of treatment they would demand, and what types they'd be willing to forgo. For example, if an insurer offered two cancer policies for women, one of which would provide for reconstructive surgery following a mastectomy and the other of which would not, women would be free to choose whether they'd rather pay the higher premium of the former plan, or accept the risk that if they got cancer their insurance wouldn't cover reconstructive surgery. Some women would value their image enough that they'd rather pay the higher premium; other women would rather save the money.

I'm not sure what's supposed to really be accomplished by letting employers "pool" their risks if insurance companies are supposed to pay for conditions that have already manifest themselves before the policies were purchased. Such plans are not really insurance, but rather "cost-sharing", with all the market distortions implied thereby. If "insurance" isn't really insurance, there's no real way for people to choose what level of treatment they'll want their insurance to cover for conditions that haven't yet manifested themselves.

29 posted on 11/02/2009 4:41:29 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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