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To: myknowledge
Okay, as a Christian who believes the Jesus Christ is the son of God and the Bible is the Word of God, it really, really bothers me when people take American culture and use it as scripture without reading the text itself. God specifically, to a point, bullet-point listed all of the sins of Sodom in Ezekiel 16:46-50, told his prophet to warn the people because they were committing the same sins and that if they didn't repent, they'd be wiped off the face of the earth just like Sodom was. (BTW: This is no way supports those nut-cases that think the "sin" of Sodom was a lack of hospitality - the Bible clearly states what they were and I believe the Bible is the word of God.)

The two angels that the men of the town attempted to rape did so after they had already been sent there to take Abraham's nephew Lot out of the city so that couldn't be the sole reason the city was destroyed. It was just icing on the proverbial sin cake.

America has been violating almost everything on the "Sodom" list in Ezekiel for about 100 years now and as a Church, we have done virtually nothing to stop it. As a Christian, we have beliefs on the mortality of homosexuality but to say it was 100% responsible for the destruction of Sodom is blatantly against scripture because God spelled it out to warn his children that they were committing the same sins and would be obliterated if they didn't repent and turn back to Him.

Your elder sister is Samaria who lived with her daughters to the north of you; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you, is Sodom with her daughters. You not only followed their ways, and acted according to their abominations; within a very little time you were more corrupt than they in all your ways. As I live, says the Lord GOD, your sister Sodom and her daughters have not done as you and your daughters have done. This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it. - Ezekiel 16:46-50

Throughout the old and new testaments, God showed tremendous mercy to His people. You're arguing that if we allow gays to get married, there will be more homosexuality in America and thus we will be more like Sodom? You realize that if someone wants to screw members of the same gender they are already doing it - the lack of "marriage" isn't going to stop them so it would have no influence on the percentage of our population that was sinning against God. Furthermore, the same percentage of people were probably screwing the same gender back in the 19th century but they hid it behind sham marriages and in back rooms. Do you think God only hates sin when its public? Or do you think he overlooks that which is in private so it doesn't count? I'm not sure I understand your logic.

I hope I said that clearly. I'm trying to read a book but thought I'd check the latest stories on here and don't feel like going back and editing.

32 posted on 11/01/2009 4:03:38 PM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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To: WallStreetCapitalist
... as a Christian who believes the Jesus Christ is the son of God and the Bible is the Word of God, ...

Blah, blah, blah...

You are in direct contempt of Genesis... You might has well throw the rest of your Bible in the trash...

34 posted on 11/01/2009 4:08:37 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: WallStreetCapitalist
As a Christian, we have beliefs on the mortality of homosexuality but to say it was 100% responsible for the destruction of Sodom is blatantly against scripture because God spelled it out to warn his children that they were committing the same sins and would be obliterated if they didn't repent and turn back to Him.

This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it. - Ezekiel 16:49-50

There were hundreds of cities in the world who were proud, had excess food and prosperous ease, that did not aid the poor and needy and were haughty. Why were they also not nuked? Because they didn't practice abomination on the scale that Sodom did. Is homosexuality the only sin for which Sodom was nuked? No. But it is the major sin. All those other sins can be forgiven. Homosexuality is an abomination and both practitioners of it are to be killed. The OT doesn't leave any room for them to spread the disease further.

You're arguing that if we allow gays to get married, there will be more homosexuality in America and thus we will be more like Sodom? ... Do you think God only hates sin when its public?

If we legally sanction homosexual marriage, then we, the government, the church, the people of this country, become equally guilty of the sin as we are encouraging it. If this country allows homosexual marriage then God must nuke us or apologize to sodom.

(and yes, allowing homosexual marriage will result in more homosexuals as they will then press harder for homosexual adoptiona nd greater access to kids. Homosexuals do not reproduce but they do recruit. Any exposure of children to homosexual behavior is child abuse as it spreads the disease.)

56 posted on 11/02/2009 5:55:24 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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