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Carville: Reagan's big tent has imploded
Politico ^ | 11/1/2009 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 11/01/2009 9:42:34 AM PST by markomalley

If the withdrawal of Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava in Upstate New York will make the race tougher for Democrats to win, they don't seem too upset about it. In fact, they're reveling in the news.

"I have an announcement to make. Ronald Reagan’s big tent just collapsed in Upstate New York. It no longer exists," Democratic strategist James Carville said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."

Carville said the message from the NY-23 race is "if you're not our definition--if you’re not a Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin directive of what constitutes a Republican, if you don’t check the necessary boxes, then they’re going to primary you….People have said this for a long time this is the kind of party they wanted, they now have it."

"I think somebody can go pick the tent up and throw it out in lake Ontario somewhere, because it don’t exist no more," Carville said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bigtent; ny2009
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To: joinedafterattack
The tent just let in the voters and not a handful of people in a smoke filled room deciding who we vote for.

Exactly. If Dede had somehow won a primary fair and square, then so be it. But just because some GOP lib in the NY state party selected her and told everyone to eat it does not mean me have to eat it.

61 posted on 11/01/2009 4:52:56 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: markomalley

Big tents have lots of clowns.


62 posted on 11/01/2009 5:16:10 PM PST by Southern Partisan (One issue voter...and it ain't abortion.)
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To: markomalley

I’m a big tent republican.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245
Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.


63 posted on 11/01/2009 9:45:24 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: markomalley

“Carville said the message from the NY-23 race is “if you’re not our definition—if you’re not a Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin directive of what constitutes a Republican, if you don’t check the necessary boxes, then they’re going to primary you….People have said this for a long time this is the kind of party they wanted, they now have it. I think somebody can go pick the tent up and throw it out in lake Ontario somewhere, because it don’t exist no more,” Carville said.”

Yep, that’s right, Carville.


64 posted on 11/02/2009 4:29:47 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz
.People have said this for a long time this is the kind of party they wanted, they now have it.

Translation: "If you are going to have a party that's effective, well, it looks like you're getting there and the dems are in big trouble."

65 posted on 11/02/2009 4:34:41 AM PST by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: markomalley

HeeHee..so the ruling class does’nt like it when the voters go their own way!!!


66 posted on 11/02/2009 4:35:50 AM PST by mo
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To: markomalley

It is a shame that Carville served in the same Marine Corps that I did.

I’ve always wondered what MOS he held. He definitely wasn’t an 03, does anyone know?


67 posted on 11/02/2009 4:40:10 AM PST by Stormtrooper79
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To: Cvengr
I never have really understood why Socialists and the new millennium democrat think in the way they do.

It's the "Inversion Principle." It's summed up best by Groucho Marx who sung "Whatever it is, I'm against it."

In more formal (Karl) Marxist terms they call it dialectic. Very generally put it means that if you want to change a bunch of people's minds about something simply offer a contradictory argument - 180 degrees opposite, invert it - and the human mind will tend to think that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Since you started with the truth and have now "compromised" down a little, then you can do the same thing with the new compromise until all the "truth" of the original argument is gone and you are left with the opposite being "true."

This is how the left has turned much of America upside down. We need to redefine America again in its original, Constitutional terms.

It will take awhile but not nearly as long as undoing it took.

68 posted on 11/02/2009 4:42:39 AM PST by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: Uncle Ike

To libs “big tent” means “big umbrella” - a shelter that moves as the sheltered under it migrate (always leftward).

Carville knows that “big test” REALLY means a fixed, yet malleable, spot where a large structure is put up, where people can come to get out from under the rain.

Umbrellas, by necessity, are size limited.

Tents are not.


69 posted on 11/02/2009 4:53:53 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: noblejones

Fortunately, when I read the words you wrote - John McCain - I was wearing garlic and a crucifix around my neck.


70 posted on 11/02/2009 7:50:30 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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