Posted on 10/30/2009 8:01:12 AM PDT by La Lydia
Edited on 10/30/2009 8:05:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
he wants in jail to be with his jihad pals.
They come to North America for the welfare, not to assimilate.
But, but, but I thought Islam was the religion of peace and tolerance.
On the other hand, I do realize that it’s common place for dad’s to run their daughters over when they’re displeased with them. Still, I wonder if there’s a hate crime involved here somewhere. Probably not. I don’t think Islam-on-daughter violence is covered.
At this rate the Muslim population in the U.S. will die out.
There needs to be local organizations to highlight these issues to people on a one-to-one basis.
The media aren’t reporting it - we need to go over the media’s head.
The flow of these creeps needs to slow, stop, and then reverse. As a matter of urgency.
No, they breed like rabbits, and they don’t run over the male spawn.
Citations or articles please.
We have had (too large) a number of rather unpleasant events created and produced by the ROP, but I recall none of the types you are claiming.
Perhaps simply by the virtue of our proximity, you are "projecting" your current local headlines onto us in Canada because you can't deal with what is going on?
We have enough to deal with. Keep your fantasies about our differences where they belong: in your private place. You were using your "OUTSIDE" voice again...
Isn't that called a "Rachel Corrie"?
From the Toronto Globe and mail, here's one and there are more.
Mother drowns, daughters critical after boing found in swimming pool Toronto woman Naila Yasmin dead, daughters aged 14 and 11, fighting for their lives after they were found in Gananoque hotel swimming pool
Toronto — Globe and Mail Update Last updated on Monday, Jul. 20, 2009 06:18PM EDT
A woman has drowned and her two young daughters remain in serious condition after they were found, unresponsive, in a pool at a hotel in Gananoque, Ont., Saturday morning.
Toronto resident Naila Yasmin, 43, succumbed to her injuries in Kingston General Hospital early Sunday afternoon.
Gananoque Police reported her two daughters, aged 14 and 11, were still hospitalized in life-threatening condition. A witness found the three in the pool at Gananoque’s Best Western Inn around 9 a.m. Saturday.
A spokeswoman said Best Western isn’t commenting on the incident, but said the hotel is co-operating with police. Police say they don’t suspect foul play and aren’t ordering an autopsy to be performed, but a joint investigation between Gananoque Police and Ontario Provincial Police is ongoing.
Yep. Its a common thing for three women to suddenly all drown at the same time at public pools. Happens daily. Nothing to see here folks. Then there is this:
http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/07/23/kingston-police-call-it-a-%E2%80%9Cmuslim-honor-killing-%E2%80%9D/
At 2pm EST today, on a CFRA radio press conference, it was announced that the deaths of four Afghan-Canadian girls and women was a “Muslim honor killing.” If so, this is the fifth known honor killing in Canada since 1999 and it brings the death toll to nine victims. I am no statistician but I have friends who are and they tell me that this is a very high number given that the Muslim population in Canada is no more than 750,000.
Let’s hear it for the Canadian police! They have just charged the Shafi family with four counts of first-degree murder and four counts of conspiracy to commit murder in this case. In other words, they understand that honor murders are planned and performed by families, not only by individuals.
Kingston police chief Stephen Tanner said, “It was a needless and senseless loss of human life. …They had their lives cut short by members of their own family.”
Only once, in 2008, did our own FBI describe an honor killing as an honor killing. They did so in the case of the Said Dallas case, but within ten days, they retracted that description. One can only imagine why. (And one does not know what the Canadian police or prosecutor will ultimately say).
This is also the second Afghan-Canadian honor killing. The first one took place in 2006, and was a brother-on-sister murder. The brother, Hasibullah Sadiqi, shot his sister and her fiancée in a shopping mall in Ottawa. Sadiqi stood trial in 2009.
Here is the background to this latest developing story in Canada. They married in Kabul in 1979, the year the Russians invaded. Rona Amir Mohammed was Mohammed Shafi’s first and only wife—that is, until it was clear she could have no children. At some point, he married a second wife, Tooba Mohammed Yahya, with whom he had four (or seven) children: three daughters and one son. The daughters were all born in Kabul; the son might have been born in Dubai. They all moved to Canada two years ago.
No one in St. Leonard, a suburb of Montreal, knew that Shafi was living with two wives. Rona, his first wife, was an intimate member of the family, variously introduced as a “relative,” an “aunt,” a “cousin.” From a Muslim point of view, Shafi behaved honorably because he did not divorce or banish his first wife even though she was infertile. How polygamy itself as well as secretive polygamy may psychologically affect a family is another matter entirely. And, while Shafi may have appeared westernized, that was far from the truth.
Last month, 50 year-old Rona, 19-year-old-Zainab, 17-year-old Sahar, and 13-year-old Geeti were mysteriously all found dead in a car submerged in the Rideau Canal. The car entered the canal backwards. This suggests that Rona had co-parented these girls and perhaps that she supported their westernization.
Is this really an honor killing? I am not sure but let’s consider these facts:
Shafi, a polygamist, considered his eldest daughter Zainab to be a “rebel.” He accused her of having a boyfriend. He also told the police that Zainab had taken the car “on a joyride.” Shafi mocked Zainab’s driving ability.
The fact that his first wife was found dead along with the second wife’s “rebellious” older daughter suggests that Rona might have argued for Zainab or might, herself, have longed for a more westernized life. I am not sure why the two younger girls also had to die. Perhaps they were seen as already too influenced by their older sister. Maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps the girls and women had been drugged and then placed in the car. How, exactly, the car managed to enter and be submerged in the water but without disturbing a single plant remains unknown and baffling.
A mysterious accident indeed. Nevertheless, yesterday, the police arrested Mohammed Shafi, his second wife, Tooba, and their eldest son on their way to Montreal’s Trudeau’s International airport. Why would they be leaving at this point? Where were they going?
Atlas Shrugs has the photos of the marriage between Rona and Mohammed of thirty years ago as well as a gallery of photos of honor murdered girls and women. Rona’s sister, Diba Massomi, sent them to the police. It was she who first suggested that this was an honor killing.
Massomi emailed the Kingston police and said that “for some time, my sister and the Shafi couple’s oldest daughter Zainab, had been receiving death threats for social, cultural, and family reasons.”
Last month, two other girls and one woman–all with Muslim names–were also discovered drowned in a hotel pool near Kingston, Ontario, in Canada. The mother, Naila Yasmin, died as did her two young daughters. None of them could swim. The father and two brothers were elsewhere at the time. I wonder if the police will revisit this crime. If it also turns out to be an honor killing, that would bring to 12 the number of victims who have been honor murdered in Canada in the last decade.
BREAKING NEWS– Last night, the Canadian Press further revealed that: Youth Protection officials had been called to the Shafi home at least three times in the last two
At 2pm EST today, on a CFRA radio press conference, it was announced that the deaths of four Afghan-Canadian girls and women was a “Muslim honor killing.” If so, this is the fifth known honor killing in Canada since 1999 and it brings the death toll to nine victims. I am no statistician but I have friends who are and they tell me that this is a very high number given that the Muslim population in Canada is no more than 750,000.
Let’s hear it for the Canadian police! They have just charged the Shafi family with four counts of first-degree murder and four counts of conspiracy to commit murder in this case. In other words, they understand that honor murders are planned and performed by families, not only by individuals.
Kingston police chief Stephen Tanner said, “It was a needless and senseless loss of human life. …They had their lives cut short by members of their own family.”
Only once, in 2008, did our own FBI describe an honor killing as an honor killing. They did so in the case of the Said Dallas case, but within ten days, they retracted that description. One can only imagine why. (And one does not know what the Canadian police or prosecutor will ultimately say).
This is also the second Afghan-Canadian honor killing. The first one took place in 2006, and was a brother-on-sister murder. The brother, Hasibullah Sadiqi, shot his sister and her fiancée in a shopping mall in Ottawa. Sadiqi stood trial in 2009.
Here is the background to this latest developing story in Canada.
They married in Kabul in 1979, the year the Russians invaded. Rona Amir Mohammed was Mohammed Shafi’s first and only wife—that is, until it was clear she could have no children. At some point, he married a second wife, Tooba Mohammed Yahya, with whom he had four (or seven) children: three daughters and one son. The daughters were all born in Kabul; the son might have been born in Dubai. They all moved to Canada two years ago.
No one in St. Leonard, a suburb of Montreal, knew that Shafi was living with two wives. Rona, his first wife, was an intimate member of the family, variously introduced as a “relative,” an “aunt,” a “cousin.” From a Muslim point of view, Shafi behaved honorably because he did not divorce or banish his first wife even though she was infertile. How polygamy itself as well as secretive polygamy may psychologically affect a family is another matter entirely. And, while Shafi may have appeared westernized, that was far from the truth.
Last month, 50 year-old Rona, 19-year-old-Zainab, 17-year-old Sahar, and 13-year-old Geeti were mysteriously all found dead in a car submerged in the Rideau Canal. The car entered the canal backwards. This suggests that Rona had co-parented these girls and perhaps that she supported their westernization.
Is this really an honor killing? I am not sure but let’s consider these facts:
Shafi, a polygamist, considered his eldest daughter Zainab to be a “rebel.” He accused her of having a boyfriend. He also told the police that Zainab had taken the car “on a joyride.” Shafi mocked Zainab’s driving ability.
The fact that his first wife was found dead along with the second wife’s “rebellious” older daughter suggests that Rona might have argued for Zainab or might, herself, have longed for a more westernized life. I am not sure why the two younger girls also had to die. Perhaps they were seen as already too influenced by their older sister. Maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps the girls and women had been drugged and then placed in the car. How, exactly, the car managed to enter and be submerged in the water but without disturbing a single plant remains unknown and baffling.
A mysterious accident indeed. Nevertheless, yesterday, the police arrested Mohammed Shafi, his second wife, Tooba, and their eldest son on their way to Montreal’s Trudeau’s International airport. Why would they be leaving at this point? Where were they going?
Atlas Shrugs has the photos of the marriage between Rona and Mohammed of thirty years ago as well as a gallery of photos of honor murdered girls and women. Rona’s sister, Diba Massomi, sent them to the police. It was she who first suggested that this was an honor killing.
Massomi emailed the Kingston police and said that “for some time, my sister and the Shafi couple’s oldest daughter Zainab, had been receiving death threats for social, cultural, and family reasons.”
Last month, two other girls and one woman–all with Muslim names–were also discovered drowned in a hotel pool near Kingston, Ontario, in Canada. The mother, Naila Yasmin, died as did her two young daughters. None of them could swim. The father and two brothers were elsewhere at the time. I wonder if the police will revisit this crime. If it also turns out to be an honor killing, that would bring to 12 the number of victims who have been honor murdered in Canada in the last decade.
BREAKING NEWS– Last night, the Canadian Press further revealed that: Youth Protection officials had been called to the Shafi home at least three times in the last two
At 2pm EST today, on a CFRA radio press conference, it was announced that the deaths of four Afghan-Canadian girls and women was a “Muslim honor killing.” If so, this is the fifth known honor killing in Canada since 1999 and it brings the death toll to nine victims.
I am no statistician but I have friends who are and they tell me that this is a very high number given that the Muslim population in Canada is no more than 750,000.
Let’s hear it for the Canadian police! They have just charged the Shafi family with four counts of first-degree murder and four counts of conspiracy to commit murder in this case. In other words, they understand that honor murders are planned and performed by families, not only by individuals.
Kingston police chief Stephen Tanner said, “It was a needless and senseless loss of human life. …They had their lives cut short by members of their own family.”
Only once, in 2008, did our own FBI describe an honor killing as an honor killing. They did so in the case of the Said Dallas case, but within ten days, they retracted that description. One can only imagine why. (And one does not know what the Canadian police or prosecutor will ultimately say).
This is also the second Afghan-Canadian honor killing. The first one took place in 2006, and was a brother-on-sister murder. The brother, Hasibullah Sadiqi, shot his sister and her fiancée in a shopping mall in Ottawa. Sadiqi stood trial in 2009.
Here is the background to this latest developing story in Canada.
They married in Kabul in 1979, the year the Russians invaded. Rona Amir Mohammed was Mohammed Shafi’s first and only wife—that is, until it was clear she could have no children. At some point, he married a second wife, Tooba Mohammed Yahya, with whom he had four (or seven) children: three daughters and one son. The daughters were all born in Kabul; the son might have been born in Dubai. They all moved to Canada two years ago.
No one in St. Leonard, a suburb of Montreal, knew that Shafi was living with two wives. Rona, his first wife, was an intimate member of the family, variously introduced as a “relative,” an “aunt,” a “cousin.” From a Muslim point of view, Shafi behaved honorably because he did not divorce or banish his first wife even though she was infertile. How polygamy itself as well as secretive polygamy may psychologically affect a family is another matter entirely. And, while Shafi may have appeared westernized, that was far from the truth.
Last month, 50 year-old Rona, 19-year-old-Zainab, 17-year-old Sahar, and 13-year-old Geeti were mysteriously all found dead in a car submerged in the Rideau Canal. The car entered the canal backwards. This suggests that Rona had co-parented these girls and perhaps that she supported their westernization.
Is this really an honor killing? I am not sure but let’s consider these facts:
Shafi, a polygamist, considered his eldest daughter Zainab to be a “rebel.” He accused her of having a boyfriend. He also told the police that Zainab had taken the car “on a joyride.” Shafi mocked Zainab’s driving ability.
The fact that his first wife was found dead along with the second wife’s “rebellious” older daughter suggests that Rona might have argued for Zainab or might, herself, have longed for a more westernized life. I am not sure why the two younger girls also had to die. Perhaps they were seen as already too influenced by their older sister. Maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps the girls and women had been drugged and then placed in the car. How, exactly, the car managed to enter and be submerged in the water but without disturbing a single plant remains unknown and baffling.
A mysterious accident indeed. Nevertheless, yesterday, the police arrested Mohammed Shafi, his second wife, Tooba, and their eldest son on their way to Montreal’s Trudeau’s International airport. Why would they be leaving at this point? Where were they going?
Atlas Shrugs has the photos of the marriage between Rona and Mohammed of thirty years ago as well as a gallery of photos of honor murdered girls and women. Rona’s sister, Diba Massomi, sent them to the police. It was she who first suggested that this was an honor killing.
Massomi emailed the Kingston police and said that “for some time, my sister and the Shafi couple’s oldest daughter Zainab, had been receiving death threats for social, cultural, and family reasons.”
Last month, two other girls and one woman–all with Muslim names–were also discovered drowned in a hotel pool near Kingston, Ontario, in Canada. The mother, Naila Yasmin, died as did her two young daughters. None of them could swim. The father and two brothers were elsewhere at the time. I wonder if the police will revisit this crime. If it also turns out to be an honor killing, that would bring to 12 the number of victims who have been honor murdered in Canada in the last decade.
BREAKING NEWS–
Last night, the Canadian Press further revealed that: Youth Protection officials had been called to the Shafi home at least three times in the last two months
“And just why did he move his family here?”
Because he could.
Four other Muslim women died recently in a “car accident” near Kingston, Ontario, and Kingston police are investigating: the teenage girls Zainab Shafia, Sahar Shafia and Geeti Shafia, along with their “aunt” Rona Amir Mohammed. Investigators are now saying that the girls’ parents and their brother conspired to dump the car into the Kingston Mills Locks on the Rideau Canal on June 30, and then lied to police in saying that the incident was an “accident.”
The girls’ father, Mohammed Shafia, originally claimed that the four had gone on a joyride with the eldest, Zainab Shafia, driving. Yet Zainab Shafia had no driver’s license. What father or mother would throw a daughter the keys to a car when the girl had no license, and allow the teen to take her younger sisters with her? Does that not sound totally out of character for a parent?
The Kingston police think so, and now they’re calling this a “Muslim honor killing.”
Diba Masoomi, who has been described in media reports as Mohammed Shafia’s sister, said that the girls’ father “believed his daughter had dishonoured him and the family by having a romance with a young Pakistani man in Montreal.”
Another source close to the family says: “The girls were not allowed to go out alone, for example, neither to the cinema nor to meet friends and they were not able to dress freely.” Their father “often criticized the influence of the Western culture on his family since they were not living in an Islamic country anymore.” Rona Amir Mohammed, meanwhile, turns out to have been not the girls’ aunt, but the first wife of their father.
Sorry!
And we both got spanked by the admin moderator for who knows why. I cut the original story down to two grafs, and still got spanked!
Say what?
Which proves that they know they are doing something wrong.
Especially since they only seem to kill their daughters.
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