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Republicans bracing against Democratic unity on health bill procedure votes
The Hill ^ | October 27, 2009 | J. Taylor Rushing

Posted on 10/27/2009 1:09:14 PM PDT by jazusamo

Senate GOP leaders warned Tuesday they will hold Democrats accountable for procedural votes during the floor debate over healthcare reform, bracing against a sneak legislative attack from the majority party.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (Texas) left no doubt they would pursue Democrats who face reelection in 2010 by considering any procedural votes on the health bill as equally important as final votes.

Cobbling together the Senate’s 60 Democrats on procedural votes has emerged as a likely strategy for Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). It involves a controversial legislative tactic called reconciliation that could require only a simple majority of 50 votes for final passage. That would allow the chamber’s Democratic centrists to support the party on procedural votes and still vote against the final product.

McConnell and Cornyn said they believe Reid is eying just such a strategy, comparing it to 2004 Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry’s (Mass.) famous phrase that he initially supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq before he opposed it.

“It’s appropriate to make the point at the outset that a vote on cloture on the motion to proceed to this bill will be treated as a vote on the merits of the bill,” McConnell said.

Cornyn made an even more direct threat, signaling that Democratic senators who face reelection are already being watched closely.

“I can tell you that candidates who are on the ballot in 2010 are looking with great skepticism at the plank they are being asked to walk by embracing unpopular policies that could very well lead to the end of their political career,” Cornyn said. “I would urge them to think about the consequences of voting for cloture on a bill that ultimately they may not be able to support.”

Reid did not answer directly when asked by reporters about his strategy for reaching 60 votes, saying that the process is still evolving. He did say that the bill that has been created from the Finance Committee version and the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee version that is currently being scored by the Congressional Budget Office, signaling that floor debate could begin within days.

“Let’s take it one step at a time,” Reid said. “Yesterday, you [reporters] were all concerned about, ‘You can’t get this on the floor.’ Let’s get it on the floor. We’ll have an amendment process and that’s what we’ll do.”

Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and HELP Committee Chairman Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) strove to cast the coming debate in historical terms, saying the bill’s passage was only a matter of time.

“There is a sense of inevitability, that yes we’re going to pass healthcare reform,” Baucus said. “It’s going to happen … To say this is difficult is an understatement. I’ve never attempted anything as difficult as this. But I’ve never relished anything quite like this because it’s just so important.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; democrats; obamacare; proceduralvotes; publicoption; senate; socializedmedicine
Hopefully this isn't just talk by Repubs.
1 posted on 10/27/2009 1:09:15 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 10/27/2009 1:11:25 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Lieberman has already bailed on public option. Bayh is about to. But what the Republicans can do to spank the Dems is a good question. I hope they can hold off until next week’s elections have a chance to send a message.


3 posted on 10/27/2009 1:11:27 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Good news, I hadn’t heard about Bayh.


4 posted on 10/27/2009 1:13:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: La Lydia

Snowe and Lincoln have publicly announced they are against the bill. I bet you’re right, they will wait to see how bad of a thumping the Dems take next week, especially in VA.


5 posted on 10/27/2009 1:16:09 PM PDT by Beeman
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To: jazusamo

I think they will vote to bring it to the floor, and then their troubles will begin. There will be amendments out the wazoo, which Reid will try to limit. Then they will have a motion to proceed (to a final vote), which is where I think their wonderland might start to turn to crap.


6 posted on 10/27/2009 1:16:25 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

An Autumn wonderland—the “Fall” from BO’s Mount Olympus. They are all sweating about next week. They are seeing VA falling away, and if NJ goes—you can color their sh#t white.


7 posted on 10/27/2009 1:19:27 PM PDT by Beeman
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To: La Lydia

What are our chances that it will be hung up at the CBO past next Tuesday?


8 posted on 10/27/2009 1:21:12 PM PDT by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: jazusamo

They better start yelling and breaking things in there this is BS.


9 posted on 10/27/2009 1:22:15 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: La Lydia

A lot more better bail if they want to keep their jobs next election.


10 posted on 10/27/2009 1:22:39 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: jazusamo
Cornyn made an even more direct threat, signaling that Democratic senators who face reelection are already being watched closely.

Why is that considered a 'threat' instead of COMMON SENSE by The Hill?!

11 posted on 10/27/2009 1:23:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jazusamo

typical Dems...trying to vote for it before they vote against it again


12 posted on 10/27/2009 1:26:12 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: freespirited

I don’t know. All Reid has said is he hopes to bring it to the floor “in November.” Isn’t the “secret committee” that is merging the HELP bill and the Finance Committee bill still meeting in secret? Until they finish, what can CBO do? Nada. You can’t score a moving target. The longer it takes, the better.


13 posted on 10/27/2009 1:27:52 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: kcvl

You’re right, the enemedia are always out to make Repubs sound threatening.


14 posted on 10/27/2009 1:28:26 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

LOL!

Democrats haven’t been united since they passed the stimulus bill.

They were supposed to finish their healthcare bill and carbon tax bill by the end of July.


15 posted on 10/27/2009 1:37:59 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: La Lydia

Yup. Last I heard they were working on merging the two bills, then sending it to CBO next.


16 posted on 10/27/2009 1:39:57 PM PDT by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

LOL! You’re right, with the centrists and the lefties the RATS have been about as united as water and oil.


17 posted on 10/27/2009 1:42:41 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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