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In Germany, A Better H1N1 Vaccine For Politicians?
Time.com ^ | October 27, 2009 | Tristana Moore

Posted on 10/27/2009 12:37:31 PM PDT by khnyny

Critics are calling it a two-tier health system — one for the politically well-connected, another for the hoi polloi. As Germany launched its mass vaccination program against the H1N1 flu virus on Monday, the government found itself fending off accusations of favoritism by offering one vaccine believed to have fewer side effects to civil servants, politicians and soldiers, and another potentially riskier vaccine to everyone else. The government had hoped that Germans would rush to health clinics to receive vaccinations against the rapidly spreading disease, but the rising anger over the different doses may now cause many people to shy away.

Amid growing fears over a possible global flu pandemic, the German government prepared for its mass vaccination campaign earlier this year by ordering 50 million doses of the Pandemrix vaccine, which would be enough for a double dose for 25 million people, around a third of the population. The vaccine, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline, contains an immune-enhancing chemical compound, known as an adjuvant, whose side effects are not yet entirely known. Then, after a report was leaked to the German media last week, the Interior Ministry confirmed that it had ordered a different vaccine, Celvapan, for government officials and the military. Celvapan, which is made by the U.S. pharmaceutical giant Baxter, does not contain an adjuvant and is believed to have fewer side effects than Pandemrix.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baxter; better; celvapan; flu; germany; h1n1; healthcare; influenza; obamacare; politicians; swineflu; vaccine
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1 posted on 10/27/2009 12:37:31 PM PDT by khnyny
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The Baxter vaccine is NOT available for the US populace.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/27/vaccine-blunder-h1n1-seasonal-flu-opinions-contributors-marc-siegel.html

The Vaccine Blunder


2 posted on 10/27/2009 12:43:02 PM PDT by khnyny (Too much power in too few hands is never a good thing.)
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World wide, I think we are seeing massive distrust of ruling governments. I rather think that an Age of Revolutions may be coming.

I can't say anything about Germany, but I can say that if Obama told be that the sun rises in the East, I'd ask for a second opinion. I believe nothing my government says to me: Nothing.

3 posted on 10/27/2009 12:43:22 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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“I can’t say anything about Germany, but I can say that if Obama told be that the sun rises in the East, I’d ask for a second opinion. I believe nothing my government says to me: Nothing.”

We are in total agreement there.


4 posted on 10/27/2009 12:47:58 PM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: khnyny; STARWISE

do you think thats happening here too?


5 posted on 10/27/2009 12:48:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
World wide, I think we are seeing massive distrust of ruling governments. I rather think that an Age of Revolutions may be coming. I can't say anything about Germany, but I can say that if Obama told be that the sun rises in the East, I'd ask for a second opinion. I believe nothing my government says to me: Nothing.

I'm in agreement!

And why does he rise and rise as his mouth smiles and smiles, exuding sincerity as he speaks lies and death? --Michael O'Brien [before B.O. was elected]
6 posted on 10/27/2009 12:48:14 PM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

..you ain’t seen nuttin yet, wait a month and this starts hitting the fan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddQvhdCyhe4


7 posted on 10/27/2009 12:48:37 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: GeronL

That particular adjuvant is banned in the US but the vaccine is exempted from that ban.

Scary.


8 posted on 10/27/2009 12:49:35 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Good.

That chemical was banned in the US for a reason, its scary that its being exempted for this vaccine.


9 posted on 10/27/2009 12:50:28 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: khnyny

This is outrageous.


10 posted on 10/27/2009 12:50:48 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: GeronL

From what I can gather, the Baxter vaccine, (and Baxter is a US company) is NOT AVAILABLE in the US. Unless, of course, that’s a lie and it’s only available for certain segments of the society.

I’d like not to think that there is something nefarious going on, but this news from Germany shows that governments are not always “transparent”. Also, the amount of mistakes, errors, misinformation and downright lies during this “crisis” has been disturbing. Imho, this whole H1N1 thing has been badly bungled by this administration.


11 posted on 10/27/2009 12:55:26 PM PDT by khnyny (Too much power in too few hands is never a good thing.)
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Unless, of course, that’s a lie and it’s only available for certain segments of the society.

I wonder which version the First Daughters received?

12 posted on 10/27/2009 1:02:28 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: khnyny
the Interior Ministry confirmed that it had ordered a different vaccine, Celvapan, for government officials and the military

All Germans are equal, but some are just more equal than the rest.

I'm sure that would NEVER happen here. Right? Right??

13 posted on 10/27/2009 1:02:52 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: khnyny

Wonder what is available for our ruling class in the gov. here versus what is available for the rest of us.


14 posted on 10/27/2009 1:08:33 PM PDT by classified
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To: the_Watchman

Exacctly! That’s if they really were given the vac!


15 posted on 10/27/2009 1:09:20 PM PDT by classified
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To: GeronL

No telling. That’s why it’s SO VITALLY CRITICAL
that, if you or your children need the shot,
you find out first what’s in it and who makes
it. Then you can do your research.


16 posted on 10/27/2009 1:12:37 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: khnyny
Swine [flu vaccine] H1N1 antigen/adjuvant bait and switch?
17 posted on 10/27/2009 1:13:29 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: STARWISE

The Baxter formula is supposedly not available to the US general public.


18 posted on 10/27/2009 1:16:22 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: khnyny
Right! We've been reading about this pandemic for a year now. Warning of it's severity and yet the gov. failed to order enough vacs!

Looking up the sites where all the mass graves were being dug in the Military cemetaries in Arizona, Houston, etc. since last years makes you wonder if they are preparing for a pandemic or a man-made pandemic. There is to much we don't know, secret vacinations for some groups only where other vacinations available for the average citizen... health care bills not being published far fear that the public might find out what is in them....This President MAN-CHILD IS CRAP!

19 posted on 10/27/2009 1:20:15 PM PDT by classified
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To: Right Wing Assault
Oh, that could never happen here./s

If Celvapan is better/safer, which seems to be the consensus based on several articles - why isn't it available to the American people? Is there just not enough for us peons?


20 posted on 10/27/2009 1:25:12 PM PDT by khnyny (Too much power in too few hands is never a good thing.)
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