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PRUDEN: Something really scary for Obama's Democrats
WashingtonTimes.com ^ | 10/27/09 | Wesley Pruden

Posted on 10/26/2009 8:49:53 PM PDT by Kartographer

Bill Clinton, accustomed to speaking to cheering thousands at a hundred grand a pop, was dispatched the other night to a Deeds rally to set the throng on fire with one of his late-October stumpwallopers. The rally, such as it was, was held not at an arena or a hotel - not even a Motel 6 - but in a campaign office in the Washington suburbs. The "throng" was counted in the dozens, about the size of a PTA meeting. Not even Bubba could dispel the gloom of a wake.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 200910; billclinton; clinton; clintonspeech; creighdeeds; mcdonnell; va2009; x42
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Someone check the toaster I think its done!

1 posted on 10/26/2009 8:49:53 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

LOL! Thanks for posting. Wesley Pruden at the Washington Times is a good writer.


2 posted on 10/26/2009 8:53:42 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Kartographer

A Clinton stumpwalloper?

That sounds dirty.


3 posted on 10/26/2009 8:56:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Kartographer

burning toast LOL.


4 posted on 10/26/2009 9:15:59 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Kartographer

Alas a conservative apparently can not remain inside the beltway long without becomeing really stupid:

“They’re learning, painfully, that campaigning without George W. Bush is baffling, frustrating and scary.”

The “They” above is the Dims which is wrong, not the GOP which would be right. No matter how foolish one becomes inside the beltway, the facts don’t change:

1. The GOP won when Bush was running.

2. The GOP Congress blew 2006 not Bush. They kept spending money on pork. They showed weakness in the face of the attacks of the left. Bush did neither of those.

3. John McCain lost in 2008 not Bush. McCain not Bush had such bad instincts that he left the campaign to legislate and follow when the financial crisis happened.

To be a conservative comentator a part of the job should be that you are required to live outside the Beltway and the northeast every other year.

What the Dims are discovering is how scary it is to run with Obama as president.


5 posted on 10/26/2009 9:17:08 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Frantzie

Pruden cracks me up — love his articles. Guess Clinton has lost his aura — having a hard time typing I am laughing so hard at the thought of Bill not drawing a crowd.


6 posted on 10/26/2009 9:17:27 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: JLS

“2. The GOP Congress blew 2006 not Bush. They kept spending money on pork. They showed weakness in the face of the attacks of the left. Bush did neither of those.”

There’s plenty of blame to go around amongst Republicans. Someone didn’t veto any spending bills during his term in office. We controlled the presidency and both houses of congress and spent like drunken dems—until Pelosi, Reid and Obama reset the bar for just how drunk a dem can get.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 9:29:05 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Kartographer

The hard lesson for Democratz to learn about Obama is the most obvious lesson.

It’s all about ME, ME, ME!


8 posted on 10/26/2009 9:46:42 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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To: ModelBreaker

Presidents do not veto acts of Congress controlled by their party. They negotiate the best deal they can with Congress before Congress acts. Congress demanded to spend like crazy. But beltway Republicans have an incentive to protect themselves by blaming everything on Bush and Pruden who I often like is an idiot for buying into this garbage.


9 posted on 10/26/2009 9:47:20 PM PDT by JLS
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To: smokingfrog

“A Clinton stumpwalloper?

That sounds dirty.”

He did Monica, not exactly Miss America, y’know?


10 posted on 10/26/2009 9:48:06 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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To: JLS
The “They” above is the Dims which is wrong, not the GOP which would be right.

The democrats have scored in the last two elections campaigning against Bush, due in part to the fact that Bush was not campaigning in the last two elections.

It isn't about Bush's mistakes, it is about their ability to smear him using their propaganda arm in the press.

Pruden's point is that the only thing they had to campaign on was their mischaracterization of Bush's record.

11 posted on 10/26/2009 9:57:37 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Rembrandt
The 1982 Miss America winner, who was from Arkansas, was reportedly raped by the then-governor of Arkansas (but apparently she has refused to confirm the allegations).

If Clinton normally gets $100,000 per speech, does that mean he can claim a $100,000 charitable contribution on his tax return for appearing at the Deeds event for free?

12 posted on 10/26/2009 10:03:48 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: JLS

“Presidents do not veto acts of Congress controlled by their party. They negotiate the best deal they can with Congress before Congress acts. Congress demanded to spend like crazy.”

Then such presidents are bad presidents, in that regard. His duty is to the American people. Not to the hacks in his party.

In addition, from 2000 on, W made it his mission to convert the Republican party into the big spending RINO’s who ran the party into the ground.

I was there as somewhat of an insider from 2002 to 2006. I know some of the things that went down. Believe me, the reshaping of the party in W’s image was often enforced with serious hard ball. W’s party was NOT a conservative party and the White House did every thing it could to prevent conservative candidates from getting out of the primaries. The R’s are not just a “partly conservative” party. They are an anti-conservative party. This fish rotted from the head down.

Frankly, what I saw was pretty appalling and is the reason I stepped down from my position in 2006. There was noone leading any direction I wanted to follow.


13 posted on 10/26/2009 10:13:25 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Perhaps you should read my two rules above.


14 posted on 10/26/2009 10:32:44 PM PDT by JLS
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I was there as somewhat of an insider from 2002 to 2006. ... W’s party was NOT a conservative party and the White House did every thing it could to prevent conservative candidates from getting out of the primaries. The R’s are not just a “partly conservative” party. They are an anti-conservative party. This fish rotted from the head down.

Many Republicans out here in the hinterlands couldn't, and still can't, admit the truth of this.

With the War on Terrorism, and daily attacks against Bush, Republicans felt pressured to defend the President against the regular Democrat attacks.

Well now Bush is not President, and the truth is that his policies (such as Open Borders, offshore outsourcing, visa workers out the gazoo, housing bubble, etc.) were designed to give the appearance of a sound economy, while millions of Americans were pushed out of the workplace and then out of the unemployment statistics.

Free Traitors can go straight to hell, in my not-so-humble opinion.

15 posted on 10/26/2009 11:19:19 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Kartographer

http://www.bobmcdonnell.com/ for Governor

http://www.billbolling.com/ for Lieutenant Governor

http://www.cuccinelli.com/ for Attorney General

It’s get out the vote time.


16 posted on 10/27/2009 2:18:11 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: JLS

“Perhaps you should read my two rules above.”

I did. They are not very good rules or even rules at all. They are observations about the results of two campaigns in two years, 2000 and 2004. Here they are:

JLS’ universal rules of elections: “Bush run. R win. Bush no run. R no win.” The natives then grunt and dance around the fire in the moonlight.

Heck, those rules are so universal, I guess we should just amend the constitution and let W run forever. He certainly would have won had he run in 2008, don’t you think?

Your “rules” have nothing to do with governing responsibly, which includes vetoing bad bills that have R written on them. If you govern badly, you will eventually get thrown out of office along with the bums who governed with you.


17 posted on 10/27/2009 6:31:23 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: meadsjn

“Well now Bush is not President, and the truth is that his policies (such as Open Borders, offshore outsourcing, visa workers out the gazoo, housing bubble, etc.) were designed to give the appearance of a sound economy, while millions of Americans were pushed out of the workplace and then out of the unemployment statistics.”

His fault regarding the housing bubble (actually a huge asset bubble) was in not addressing it. He inherited an asset bubble that had been exponentially inflating for at least ten years. It peaked in about 2002 and has been popping ever since. The housing bubble was just part of it.

He just did what his predecessors did—kicked the can down the road by continuing cheap credit policies and fiscal irresponsibility of the past. He did not move to wean America off it’s addiction to borrowing money to buy cheap stuff in China. etc etc. Except for inflating the federal deficit, his sins were ones of omission in this regard.

Bit him and America in the butt in 2008. But it would have bit us sooner or later. It will continue to bite for years to come.


18 posted on 10/27/2009 6:45:01 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Sorry, I had the wrong thread in mind. On one of the threads on NY 23 I basically said it depends on:

1. How leftist is the GOP candidate.

2. How did the candidate get chosen.

3. How leftist is the district.

The GOP probably has to support the pick of the voters if there was a vote. Every voter disagrees with every candidate. The question is how much do you disagree with the candidate and does the candidate match the electorate.

So you might not support the GOP candidate in NY 23 since she was picked by the state party or convention [I believe], she is very left and the district is fairly conservative, while at the same time supporting the GOP nominee for NJ govenor even though he is pretty squishy because NJ is not a place conservative is likely to win. The perfect should not be the enemy of the good or even the best you can do.

So to me the question your post raises was is your claim that the Bush GOP was against running conservatives in conservative districts or did the favor the GOP candidate in primaries that had the best chance to win in the general? The former would be what you called anti-conservative, the latter is pramatic governing.

The GOP Congress by 2006 was becoming squishy not because of Spector in PA, etc. It was becoming squishy because somehow the GOP failed to win senate seats in Nevada or other conservative states.


19 posted on 10/27/2009 7:24:08 AM PDT by JLS
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20 posted on 10/27/2009 7:30:31 AM PDT by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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