[Cinnamon Girl]

No, you’re right, it’s much better to have Ozero as the commander in chief. I’ll let my brother know. And my friend in Iraq. Maybe you could explain it to them. How it’s better to have the worst possible president than one who isn’t a perfect conservative.

On FR we have folks who trash lots of Republicans for not being conservative enough: Bush, Medved, Gingrich, even Cheney. Eventually, nobody is good enough. It makes you wonder what the true goal of these perfect conservatives is, really.

[ConservativeMind]

Well, perhaps striving for the right goal is a good thing.

Everyone falls short. We can't let our weaknesses become excuses or to allow them to redefine the goal.

Criticism is often constructive, even if done in a back-handed way.

Here's a test:

Would you support a practicing homosexual pedophile rabbi as long as he was for lower taxes and voted Republican most of the time? I mean, after all, he is mostly a Republican, right? If you don't support him, by what criteria do you put him down?

[rabscuttle385]

On FR we have folks who trash lots of Republicans for not being conservative enough: Bush, Medved, Gingrich, even Cheney. Eventually, nobody is good enough. It makes you wonder what the true goal of these perfect conservatives is, really.

There is much to be said for

"A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
which must not be compromised
to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers."
RONALD REAGAN

There are "certain fundamental beliefs" which are the core of conservatism. For example...

"The basis of conservatism is a desire
for less government interference or less
centralized authority or more individual freedom
and this is a pretty general description
also of what libertarianism is."
RONALD REAGAN

But hey, if you don't enforce any minimum standard of what constitutes conservatism, then you will support practically anything, in essence standing for nothing.

[DoughtyOne]

No, you’re right, it’s much better to have Ozero as the commander in chief. I’ll let my brother know. And my friend in Iraq. Maybe you could explain it to them. How it’s better to have the worst possible president than one who isn’t a perfect conservative.

While you're at it, please let them know that even though the last wonder-lust was Republican and did 'love the military' he didn't bother to lift a finger against Iran or Syria when they trained, armed, and deployed terrorists into Iraq.  Need I remind you of who those terrorists victims were in many instances?  How about the upgraded flack jackets?  What about the new upgraded personel carriers?  Did our guy do all that he could?  In a word, no.

He was just too busy doubling the budget of the Department of education in his first three years, and pushing through the largest single Great Society program in 40 years.

Until our populace gets tired of the leftists, we're going to have them with us. The best we can hope for is to out them for who they are, and change directions in this natioin.  We simply cannot do that by voting in people who claim to be conservative but drag their feet.  I spent the last eight years trying to talk sense into 'Conservaives' on this fourm, hoping Bush would get it.  He never did.  He was defended to the bitter end.  Nothing he did was worthy of him being taken to the wood shed over.

Well, Bush was bad enough.  I will never sign on to the likes of John McCain to lead this nation. While our troops risk their lives on foreign soil, he would be using our borders to further his globalist agenda.  He would be whittling away at our military as surely as Obama is.  He's happy enough calling them tortureres.

When McCain worked with George Soros and Teressa Heinz Kerry to form a foundation, I promised myself I would never support him.  When he sided against our POWs, their families and the military to grant Vietnam normalized status, I said to myself, this man is evil.  I will never support him.  I have a list of forty to fifty things that reveal to me that I can never support this man.  He is EVIL.

On FR we have folks who trash lots of Republicans for not being conservative enough: Bush, Medved, Gingrich, even Cheney. Eventually, nobody is good enough. It makes you wonder what the true goal of these perfect conservatives is, really.

Well, I know it's a quaint concept, but perhaps they want people who truly believe what they profess to believe.  Did you read Gingrich's latest diatribe on the forum today?  Have you listened to Medvid over the years?  Medvid means well, but he's lost in the ozone.  He takes the wrong side on so many issues that it's a surprise when he doesn't.  Every time I turn his show on, he convinces me I've come to the wrong place.  Newt is now convinced that it's too much to think a right wing majority could win a national election.

As for Cheney, I've had some problems with him over the years.  I would still probably vote for him.

Look, if these folks want to lead us, they need to think about what they say.  It's not my fault they don't believe in Conservatism.

How many tenets of Conservatism am I supposed to dismiss so I can vote for a Democrat who only believes a couple of things I do?

Sorry, we're so much farther left today than we were under Reagan, there's no denying that going along to get alone has brought us to where we are.  At some point we must take a stand or we'll be standing in the middle of leftist central as happy as a lark to be there.

Not me today.  Not me tomorrow.  If you think that makes me a leftist operative, then that's just sad.
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