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Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23 (Santorum joins Palin, Bachmann, Thompson, Armey, Forbes)
Yahoo ^ | 10/23/09 | Andy Barr

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:19:43 AM PDT by Libloather

Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23
Andy Barr – Fri Oct 23, 7:12 pm ET

Some of the most prominent names in national Republican Party politics are lining up against the GOP nominee in a key upstate New York House special election, the latest being former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who weighed in Friday.

In endorsing Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman in the Nov. 3 contest, Santorum joined former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachmann, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, and former presidential candidate Steve Forbes, all of whom announced their backing for the conservative third-party candidate this week.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty suggested Friday that he might be the next well-known Republican to break with the party establishment and support Hoffman. When asked about the race Friday during an interview with ABC, he expressed frustration with GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava and said he will “probably” endorse in the race.

Scozzafava, a state assemblywoman who supports gay marriage, abortion rights and has a close relationship with leading labor officials in her region, has been the target of sustained criticism from conservatives who claim that she is so liberal that they cannot in good conscience support her candidacy. As evidence, they point to her unofficial endorsement from the leading liberal blog Daily Kos.

While Scozzafava can point to many other prominent conservatives who support her bid—including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill—this week’s surge of leading conservatives to Hoffman’s camp is a troubling sign for her campaign and the national GOP establishment since several of the recent Hoffman endorsers have significant followings and represent the most energetic part of the Republican base.

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To: paguch
Newt seems to be a good historian, but he consistently jumps on the wrong bandwagon, just like McCain. I could NEVER support Newt for office again. He was going great as leader of the conservative Repubs when Speaker and screwed up.

vaudine

41 posted on 10/24/2009 5:54:09 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: paguch
I remember back in the 1980's everyone was up in arms about soil erosion and deforestation, but farmers and conservationists quickly calmed these "fears" by adopting tough measures that greatly reduced the amount of soil washoff and replanting trees after they had been harvested.

Now that global warming is starting to fade away, I wonder what their next panic area will be.

42 posted on 10/24/2009 5:55:20 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: paguch

I believe Newt has aligned himself with Cantor, Jindal, Jeb, McCain, Mitt, et al, ... GOP-lite.


43 posted on 10/24/2009 5:56:56 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Libloather
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty suggested Friday that he might be the next well-known Republican to break with the party establishment and support Hoffman.

Proving that Pawlenty "might be" a good to fair "follower", someday, but never a "leader".

It is always thus with moderates.

44 posted on 10/24/2009 5:58:42 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Marylander

The two parties will be the ‘Democratic People’s party’ (AKA, the Marxist party) and the other the ‘Constitutional Republic party’.

One party striving for complete government control of your life and a one world government.

The other a party for and by individuals who believe in limited government and a return to the principles of the Constitution. Their motto being ‘He who governs least governs best’ and ‘Live Free or Die’.


45 posted on 10/24/2009 5:58:52 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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Note that of all potential candidates being mentioned for 2012 only one, Sarah Palin, has made the right and good choice.
Not so with Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, DeMint, or even Hunter.
46 posted on 10/24/2009 6:03:43 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla

If Santorum made the same stand in PA against the Specter nomination, Pat Toomey would be a Senator from PA and perhaps Santorum would as well.


47 posted on 10/24/2009 6:30:56 AM PDT by etradervic (Democrat uber deficit spending proves that the swine flu originated in DC)
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To: Man50D; jla; Bloody Sam Roberts; EternalVigilance; vaudine; freeangel; Right Wing Assault; ...
I missed Forbes. And now Santorum. This is getting interesting.

The Wizard wrote:
Did you notice the order of the list.....Madame President, then the others.... seems like a trend is developing
I noticed that. But the reality is that several of the others endorsed Hoffman before Palin. Some were on with Hoffman a week or more before Palin.
allmendream wrote:
Where Sarah Palin leads, the others will follow.
Many have “followed’ in advance of Palin. Fred Thompson, Dick Armey, Michelle Bachmann all endorsed Hoffman before Palin did.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Sarah made the endorsement. But she wasn’t the trailblazer here.

Though her facebook post endorsing Hoffman went beyond just endorsing Hoffman. She is calling for Conservatives to take back the Republican party and make it actually stand for conservative principles. She is trying to take a leadership role on that front.

Has everyone seen this: “The Most Important Number in Politics Today.” Still, the Democrat is way ahead of everyone in fund raising in this important race in upstate New York.

Doug Hoffman is the Conservative alternative in this race (or Hoffman by PayPal).

Markos Moulitsas, founder of The Daily Kos has endorsed Scozzafava. Dede Scozzafava has also been endorsed by NYSUT, the largest labor union in New York, and an affiliate of the National Education Association.

Scozzafava also holds these positions:

Scozzafava has also run in past elections on the Working Families Party (a progressive party associated with ACORN) line on the ballot.

This lady isn’t a RINO, she is a big “R” libeRal democRat. Mark Steyn has coined the term DIABLO for her and others like her. Democrat In All But Label Only.

There are also at least 17 unprincipled DIABLO enablers in the house who have donated funds or otherwise supported to this LibeRal democRat's DIABLO’s campaign. They include Boehner, Cantor, Sessions, Hensarling, Brown-Waite and McCotter. I don’t have a full list, but I will be looking for it. These unprincipled enablers should be targeted for elimination in the primaries next year.

Also, perhaps those of us who donated to the RNC or RCCC should ask for our money back so we can support the conservative candidates of our choice.

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From the desk of
cc2k:
I support Doug Hoffman for Congress (PayPal).

Please, spread the word about this important election on November 3, 2009 in New York’s 23rd congressional district.

48 posted on 10/24/2009 6:40:08 AM PDT by cc2k (I have donated to Doug Hoffman, have you? [check my recent reply posts])
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To: Libloather
they point to her unofficial endorsement from the leading liberal blog Daily Kos.

That should be the kiss of death for her, among conservatives.

49 posted on 10/24/2009 6:41:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: cc2k

http://republicanwhip.house.gov/newsroom/2009/04/national-council-for-a-new-america-formed.html

Our National Panel of Experts:

Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney

(snip)

Sincerely,

John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt

Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Ensign, John Cornyn, John Thune, Kay Bailey Hutchison

//

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/gingrich-to-be-a-public-face-of-cantors-effort-to-remake-gop/

Gingrich Joins Cantor’s Effort To Remake GOP


50 posted on 10/24/2009 6:47:03 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Libloather

I’m hoping Hoffman is running a good campaign and the people in the district don’t have a backlash against outside involvement.


51 posted on 10/24/2009 6:47:36 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: mvpel

Right. Look at the immeasureable damage done by a scumbag by Arlen Specter who was in a position of power, but did nothing-NOTHING-that would ever justify the “R” after his name. He filled a seat and Republicans could point to it and say “Look! He has a committee chair, and he is ours!”

He was NEVER “ours”. And his woman with the “R” after her name won’t be, either.


52 posted on 10/24/2009 6:57:53 AM PDT by rlmorel (Obama, The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him...)
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To: Libloather

This is why I will NOT give money to the RNC. I give to individual candidates, but not a cent to the RNC.


53 posted on 10/24/2009 6:58:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Obama, The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him...)
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To: Libloather
many other prominent conservatives who support her bid—including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill

Which "Republican leaders on Capitol Hill" are also "prominent conservatives"?

None, I would say.

54 posted on 10/24/2009 7:01:22 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: snippy_about_it

I get about 3 GOP fundraising letters a week. I always take the postage-paid envelope, place a piece of paper with PALIN 2012 written on it inside, and mail it back to them.


55 posted on 10/24/2009 7:02:42 AM PDT by rae4palin
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To: wiggen; Lundy_s Lane II

I should say that I, too, know there is an admirable Conservative party. I was a member until I became convinced the dynamics of elections were making the far left more entrenched. I would love to rejoin a Conservative party with a chance.

It seems some strong conservative Republicans are looking for a new home. They will bring in some money and some following, but where will it all coalesce?

Perhaps Republicans (as a group, not each one) find it easier to support a candidate running as Independent rather than Conservative Party, partly because the general public likes the idea of independence, but is a bit wary of the Conservative Party. It looks like conservative Democrats have a similar preference, more willing to call themselves Independent than Republican.

This configuration of preferences tends to strengthen a group of candidates that have a lot in common, namely they are both independent and conservative. As more of these are successful, the idea of a new party becomes more viable.

The result would be a party of Independent breakaways joining with and giving more credibility to the Conservative Party, while the Republican Party is left with their liberals to join with liberal Democrats and leave the far Left out in the cold.


56 posted on 10/24/2009 7:03:22 AM PDT by Marylander (Obama: A Pain ... and ... a Pill.)
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To: Libloather

The message to the GOP left should be clear. We are sick of liberals in any party.


57 posted on 10/24/2009 7:06:58 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Graybeard58
..they point to her unofficial endorsement from the leading liberal blog Daily Kos.

"That should be the kiss of death for her, among conservatives."

Intentional, perhaps? Is there a better way to disrupt the Democratic opposition? We should watch for similar situations where liberals endorse non-Democrat candidates.

58 posted on 10/24/2009 7:10:20 AM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: Erik Latranyi

Sarah Palin might be a lot of thingd but Leader of the Conservative movement isn’t one of them.


59 posted on 10/24/2009 7:12:48 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: cc2k

Thank you for the clarification.

Have to admit, I wasn’t really following this until Palin weighed in. How in the hell can Gingrich endorse THAT?


60 posted on 10/24/2009 7:28:41 AM PDT by stevestras
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