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To: AuntB
Yeah, no wonder the GOP is fraudulently tagged with this lie when supposed “Conservatives” pick the Washington Post and other Democrat Party propaganda blogs for their “facts”.

Fact, Abramhoff PACS gave 58% to Democrats 42% to Republicans according to Open Secrets, a non partisan watch dog. So how about you actually learn the facts instead of pimping Leftist propaganda?

20 posted on 10/23/2009 12:58:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Fact, Abramhoff PACS gave 58% to Democrats 42% to Republicans

I agree the media was able to spin Abramoff as a GOP scandal. But that should never be used to excuse the corrupt pubbies who crawled into bed with him.

22 posted on 10/23/2009 1:03:54 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: MNJohnnie

Ignore the facts, MNJohnnie, just as you always do...there are plenty of sources, so don’t pull that old kill the messenger crappola. Abramoff was scum, he was loved by Bush’s people. FACT.


26 posted on 10/23/2009 1:11:58 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: MNJohnnie; AuntB

Both of you are right. Abramhoff played both sides of the fence. His political philosophy was the ‘wallet wing’- he leaned whichever way made his wallet heavier.


35 posted on 10/23/2009 1:21:53 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: MNJohnnie

Who but a dolt bribes just one faction?
If you’re a player, you give each side a taste. Like certain neighborhoods, you tip the cops and the mob.
A technique as old as the first construction bribe in Hammurabi’s day.


44 posted on 10/23/2009 2:06:49 PM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: MNJohnnie; AuntB
>So how about you actually learn the facts instead of pimping Leftist propaganda?

The facts show that you are the one "pimping propaganda."

You just can't stand watching the Abramoff Wing of the GOP being amputated. That's too bad. The gangrene is spreading and it has to go.

No wonder you're so touchy, and rude to AuntB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff_Indian_lobbying_scandal

The Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal is a United States political scandal relating to the work performed by political lobbyists Jack Abramoff, Ralph E. Reed, Jr., Grover Norquist and Michael Scanlon on Indian casino gambling interests for an estimated $85 million in fees. Abramoff and Scanlon grossly overbilled their clients, secretly splitting the multimillion-dollar profits. In one case, they secretly orchestrated lobbying against their own clients in order to force them to pay for lobbying services.

In the course of the scheme, the lobbyists were accused of illegally giving gifts and making campaign donations to legislators in return for votes or support of legislation. Representative Bob Ney (R-OH) and two aides to Tom DeLay (R-TX) have been directly implicated; other politicians, mostly Republican lawmakers with connections to Indian affairs, have various ties.

Abramoff, Bush Together on Camera

http://washingtonindependent.com/1092/abramoff-bush-together-on-camera

By Matthew Blake 6/9/08 4:01 PM

Trolling through the House oversight committee’s report this afternoon, it became clear that Jack Abramoff was a bad influence on U.S. policy in the Northern Mariana Islands. Otherwise, the report, which said upfront that it was limited by key players taking the 5th, left more questions than answers. Here are a couple of the biggest questions (and a few photos of Abramoff and Bush):

– Why were White House personnel officials sending emails to Stephen Hadley in 2001 about a politically motivated State Dept. firing? The current National Security Adviser was deputy national security adviser at the time, putting him in a position where he would have nothing to do with Abramoff’s political dealings (along with the Mariana Islands, Abramoff’s top clients were four American Indian tribes). From what we know, Hadley’s involvement doesn’t make any sense.

– That leads to another question: Did Abramoff’s influence extend beyond helping his specific clients? The committee has six (low quality) pictures of him with President George Bush. (We published a handful of our favorites below.) We know Abramoff had extensive interactions with Bush’s political adviser Karl Rove. There’s also a lot of amusing stuff at the end of the report about Abramoff’s lobbying firm, Greenberg Traurig, buying tickets for people like Rove and former Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman to events like Washington Wizards games and U2 and Bruce Springsteen concerts on Abramoff’s dime.

49 posted on 10/23/2009 2:56:46 PM PDT by Palin Republic (Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
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