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Russians violating treaty, developing missile
Washington Times ^ | 10/22/09 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 10/22/2009 8:36:58 AM PDT by Thunder90

START 'cheating'

Republicans in the Senate are gearing up to battle the Obama administration over the high-priority plan to finish a new arms-control treaty with Russia before the end of the year.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: appeasement; belarus; bhorussia; bhoussr; coldwar2; communism; obama; russia; sovietunion; start; surrendercrats
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The Russians are violating the START treaty and the old ABM treaty. And yet the Russians are going to inspect our facilities and subs.
1 posted on 10/22/2009 8:36:59 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

“Trust, but verify.”


2 posted on 10/22/2009 8:37:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...
Russia/Soviet/Coldwar2 PING!!!

To be added to or removed from this list, please FReepmail me...

3 posted on 10/22/2009 8:38:30 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: dfwgator

Barry’s fault.

They see him as a flat out joke, appeaser, and a weak man.


4 posted on 10/22/2009 8:38:37 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Thunder90

They know the US is weak and has no real leader


5 posted on 10/22/2009 8:38:42 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Thunder90

When your defenses are down as ours are with a weak commander in chief the enemy sees opportunity to advance. Obama is a nightmare.


6 posted on 10/22/2009 8:41:41 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Thunder90

Why not simply subcontract out or national security to the Russians? That way we can do away with out Military which makes us a threat to the world.


7 posted on 10/22/2009 8:50:18 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: Thunder90
The Community Rabble-Rouser in the White House is Clueless!


8 posted on 10/22/2009 8:50:50 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Thunder90
And why not hide our important stuff from the Russian inspectors? (if the mil-brass wants to protect our nation's security assets)

IIRC, The Israelis elaborately concealed their nuke manufacturing facilities from U.S. weapons inspectors during the JFK and LBJ administrations (from 1962-69) by constructing a fake but working control room and a couple of false walls concealing the entrance to the nuke manufacturing sector at the Dimona nuke facility in the Negev Desert.

Now Russia has put forward their latest firecracker:

RSM-56 Bulava (Russian = mace) aka SS-N-30


9 posted on 10/22/2009 8:56:51 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

And the best way for the Russians to keep us guessing if the Bulva works or not is to have one successful test somewhere in the series (the REAL test), and to make the other Bulvas fail on purpose (fake tests), and publicize the hell out of the fake tests.


10 posted on 10/22/2009 9:11:14 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

Is anyone really surprised??? Well...maybe BHO.


11 posted on 10/22/2009 9:13:47 AM PDT by PORD (People...Of Right Do (DoI))
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To: Thunder90
Didn't they hear that Barry is making all nuclear weapons disappear?

Oh wait, that's just American nuclear weapons.

We are so...what's more eff'ed than eff'ed? Super-eff'ed? Hyper-eff'ed?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

12 posted on 10/22/2009 9:50:49 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian

But the world loves us now!


13 posted on 10/22/2009 10:23:13 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: avacado; GeronL; cranked
weak-weak-weak

Actually, it is a matter of the NeoCons versus the Realists.

In the article, NeoCon DeSutter is used as the authority.

Bush followed the NeoCons into the GOP bloodbaths of 2006 and 2008.

Obama campaigned on the Realist Doctrine and McCain campaigned on the NeoCon Doctrine. Obama won.

NeoCon Chaney, NeoCon Rove, NeoCon Gertz, or any other NeoCon can complain all they want but Obama and the dems are not going follow the NeoCons into defeat.

14 posted on 10/22/2009 11:49:43 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama a realist? LOL!!! Disarming American, allowing Russians into our nuke sites, all the while the Russians ramp up!

Thank you for my laugh for the day! Hysterical!


15 posted on 10/22/2009 11:53:51 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Ben Ficklin

Perhaps, your correct on the neocon bits, but be assured, Barry and company are finding every loopholed attempt to make Afghanistan a “defeat,” despite Barry’s use of Realist language or doctrine. I mean lets be real here, Barry is far, far from being a true Realist; the man is a flat out liberalist whether in transnationalist or internationalist form.


16 posted on 10/22/2009 12:40:28 PM PDT by cranked
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To: avacado; cranked
Which very prominent republican realist voted for candidate Obama and has been a close adviser to President Obama?

Hint: He was a general and worked for George Bush.

17 posted on 10/22/2009 2:16:27 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Does that make Barry a “realist” or merely someone who uses it when it best suits his agendas and goals...you know much like when he ran as a moderate during the presidential elections only to reveal his true colors once in office?


18 posted on 10/22/2009 3:39:00 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Thunder90

A rule of thumb: The QC (quality control) of Russian missiles closely matches that of their Western counterparts.


19 posted on 10/23/2009 4:47:29 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: cranked
"Does that make Barry a realist or merely someone who uses it when it best suits his agenda and goals"

That is very easy to answer. Ask the realists.

On any given issue or position, examine a cross-section of well known and outspoken realists to see if there is support or criticism for Obama's position

On the issue of START, Obama and McCain had very different positions and the realists supported Obama or criticized McCain.

On the issue of negotiating with Iran "at the highest level and with out precondition, the realists supported Obama.

Show me one issue the realists have not supported and/or defended Obama.

Even tho you didn't answer my question in #17, I'll give you another one. Who are Obama's four "wise old men"? Scowcroft, Kissinger, Baker, and Zbig.

20 posted on 10/23/2009 10:10:22 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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