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To: kronos77

The above is one of the top five reasons I am no longer Catholic.

Too many in the Catholic leadership break the First Commandment by worshiping communism rather than God. And...There is absolutely no way for the ordinary layman to influence reform.


3 posted on 10/22/2009 7:43:15 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime; kronos77; MrB; Major Matt Mason
I never heard of this obscure German history professor, Georg Sans, and I don't think by any stretch of skewed imagination he can be called a leader of the Church.

Is anybody quoted in L'Osservatore Romano considered a member of the heirarchy now? Give me a break.

While I strongly maintain that LO should be reined in (for this and other reasons), I must say you are off target here because "L'Osservatore Romano" ain't "the Vatican." It's a daily newspaper which, while it does publish approved translations of official Church texts, otherwise operates as an independent newspaper whose masthead motto is Unicuique suum ("To each his own").

True, "the Vatican" (by which I mean the clerical bureaucracy which runs the church government) has been characterized by "Good Doctrine; Bad Discipline" for years, and if you can't think of a dozen pathetic examples right off the top of your head, I can do so myself.

But the "teaching Church" (meaning the Ecumenical Councils, the Pope and the bishops who are in union with him, the Catechisms which faithfully convey their teachings) draw a bright and unmistakable line against Communism.

Why must you reinforce the toxic impression (as the EneMedia always does) that any Marxist renegade or modernist wackadoo they can put into the headlines is "speaking for the Church"?

Why add to the Enemy's incessant and insididous "divide and conquer" strategy?

Unfaithful Catholics should not force faithful Catholics out of Catholicism. Just like Olympia Snowe and Michael Dukakis (to take just two US examples) or Metropolitan Sergius Stragorodsky shouldn't force faithful Orthodox out of Orthodoxy.

33 posted on 10/22/2009 8:14:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Only Good Catholic is a Bad Catholic." MSM)
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To: wintertime
The above is one of the top five reasons I am no longer Catholic.

It is sad that this social activism is driving people away. I've left during homilies and even changed parishes over it.

62 posted on 10/22/2009 8:52:47 AM PDT by TankerKC (I have a healthy respect for earned, properly exercised, authority.)
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To: wintertime
The above is one of the top five reasons I am no longer Catholic.

Are the other four reasons as groundless and pathetic as this one?

72 posted on 10/22/2009 9:16:21 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wintertime
The above is one of the top five reasons I am no longer Catholic.

Then you are clearly in the camp of those who hate the Catholic Church for what they think it teaches as oposted to the reality. It is a shame you don't actually learn what the Church says. Contrary to author's idiotic assertion, the Church is not and never will be in the Marxist camp (heretical priests and bishops notwithstanding).
116 posted on 10/22/2009 11:26:57 AM PDT by Flying Circus
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