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1 posted on 10/21/2009 9:45:31 PM PDT by JohnRLott
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First open gun grab will be the 2nd shot heard around the world.

Obozo had better beware. Actions have consequences.

And probably not the consequences he may think about.


2 posted on 10/21/2009 9:52:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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Read later.


3 posted on 10/21/2009 9:54:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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I guess this answers that article about gunowners thinking this admin might take a shot at guns


4 posted on 10/21/2009 9:54:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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John R Lott

That names sounds vaguely familiar =o)


5 posted on 10/21/2009 9:54:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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BLOAT!!
7 posted on 10/21/2009 9:57:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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"Gun-control advocates claim that banning the CDC from examining gun control amounts to a gag order on science.

They would be the same poltroons who put a gag order on anyone who disputes their claim that climate change is man made.

10 posted on 10/21/2009 10:00:56 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: JohnRLott; GODAWGS47; japaneseghost; Stentor; Marty; Fractal Trader; metmom; John Valentine; ...

To the Rethinking AIDS/Rethinking Public Health Ping List.

This was an interview on the CDC and the phony “War on AIDS” that veered into the CDC and gun control. See my profile page for more:

RETHINKING: There is so much more of this on the tapes and in your book. But you told me recently that the CDC is trying to define violence and gun-related crimes as clusters of epidemic disease.

ELLISON: That’s right. Violence of course they are not calling an infectious disease, but they are trying to treat it as a disease with perhaps some kind of environmental cause. They think they can cure violence by two measures primarily. One is gun control; they think if you get rid of the guns, then the gangs of course will stop purchasing their automatic weapons through the underground. And second, that if you fund the gangs and their organizations, their front groups, that are creating riots and violence, that you will then induce them to become peaceful.

RETHINKING: Where did you get that from?

ELLISON: This is from articles published by CDC officers themselves, who are not outlining their strategy for, quote, “how to stop the epidemic of violence.” They believe that because it’s an epidemic or disease that it shouldn’t be punished. You shouldn’t fill up the jails with these people, or death row. Rather you should give them money and take everyone else’s guns.

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/raellison.htm


12 posted on 10/21/2009 10:04:13 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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“they’re researching alcohol sales and their impact on gun violence”

I’ve always said that the BATF was in charge of a weird combination of items.

First it was demonizing guns, then tobacco and now alcohol.

Will the limo libs rise up in rage when their Dom Perignon is taken from their cold, drunk hands?


13 posted on 10/21/2009 10:05:14 PM PDT by Salamander ("Welcome to my nightmare.....I think you're gonna like it")
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They’ll have reached their conclusions before their “research” and make the data support their “findings”.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 10:07:31 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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You are the Disease, I am the Cure.


21 posted on 10/21/2009 10:29:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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Obamao’s arrogance is going to get the best of him when he goes after our guns. You know he wants to, but he and the radical left know it isn’t politically feasible right now.


23 posted on 10/21/2009 10:38:49 PM PDT by pallis
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'Taking a shot at guns is no big deal. Obama is all wise and powerful. He has unprecedented insight. All bow down to Zero in Chief:

Obama Plans to Negotiate With Raging Wildfire !

26 posted on 10/21/2009 11:07:28 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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He’ll try to ban gun ownership via universal government healthcare.

Eventually you’ll need psych exams to even possibly get one.

They will start banning them based on risks to your health. Lead, potential accidental injury, injuring others, etc.

At the same time making the world safer for criminals and government thugs.


27 posted on 10/21/2009 11:13:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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bttt


31 posted on 10/22/2009 1:40:13 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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THREAD BUMP.


32 posted on 10/22/2009 2:58:35 AM PDT by Cindy
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seems like they ought to have better things to do with their time and my money.


34 posted on 10/22/2009 3:04:44 AM PDT by RC one
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Same sh!t, different decade...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

36 posted on 10/22/2009 4:36:27 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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There will soon be nothing left to defend Americans
from Team Obama as they “cracks heads” (ordered by PBS Lehrer),
murder, and eat, Americans protesting Obama’s DNC-led Kenyan coup d’etat.
39 posted on 10/22/2009 5:06:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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For a decade, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been forbidden by Congress from doing research on gun-control issues. Such piddling hurdles as federal law don't matter to the Obama administration.

From 2003:

"What we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States.” --J. Effing Kerry

Kerry is exactly right. The closest thing there has been to a dictatorial regime in Washington D.C. was started by FDR. It has continued, with minor squiggles in the other direction, during the Reagan and now GWB administrations. The fad of the 30's for state-directed planning and control with its unchecked propensity for abuse of Constitutional rights has continued unabated.

We do need a regime change. We need a re-Constitutionalization of the federal government. It needs to be stripped of all extra-Constitutional, acronymized government agencies. It needs to be headed by people who will tell "constituents":
"Hey, there's something you don't like? Something you want? Something you want others to be forced to do? Something you want others to be forced not to do? Get your state to do it or do it yourselves under the laws of your state. Your life will be what you make of it, not what you try to get us to make of it with the money from the guy down the block.

"You're a governor and want the people of your state to have more welfare benefits? Then tax the citizens and businesses of your own state to pay for it and enjoy the consequences of having welfare hopefuls stream into your state and businesses and productive individuals stream out.

"You're a mayor of a big city and your state government won't give you all the money you want? Then figure out a way to deal with it yourself. Levy an income tax on the residents of the city and watch what happens as a result of your own actions. We won't be there to bail you out. It's live and let die. You've got to politically reap what you politically sow.

"You want to save 20,000 acres you say are home to some endangered toad? Then get off your butts and start collecting the money to buy and maintain the land to promote maximum toad health. Don't expect someone else to do it for you because you bitch loudly enough in the courts about it.

" You want everybody in the entire nation to have health insurance? Then get off your butts and start donating your own money to buy it for them or start raising money by convincing others through moral suasion that they should give. Don't expect someone else to do it for you because you think you can use the power of the federal government to coerce other people into paying for what you think is a good idea. Maybe it is a good idea. But if you can't convince everyone to do it, then do what you can with your own resources. You don't have any right to pay for your good deeds by spoliating the money and property of others. Might doesn't make right and thinking you're right doesn't mean you can dip into the pockets of others to pay for your brilliant ideas.

"As federal officials, we have our work very narrowly and very clearly defined in the Constitution and we're going to stick to that. Anything else is your own lookout."

40 posted on 10/22/2009 5:24:11 AM PDT by aruanan
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People who are more likely to be victims are more likely to own guns. They may still be more likely to be victims even after getting a gun...

Oh. You mean like gang-bangers and criminals?

The CDC's brazen end run around restrictions on gun-control research is hardly surprising given that when President Obama served on the board of the Joyce Foundation, it was the largest private funder of gun-ban research in the country

No surprises here.

49 posted on 10/22/2009 6:41:13 AM PDT by Gritty (One chief guarantee of freedom is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms - Hubert H. Humphrey)
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