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1 posted on 10/21/2009 8:25:01 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

No need for self defense. If I lived in Georgetown county, I’d hang myself.


2 posted on 10/21/2009 8:27:30 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: neverdem
"Law enforcement is against this 100 percent," said Capt. Nelson Brown of the Georgetown Police Department. "We go with a zero-tolerance policy with firearms on school property."

Elliott pointed out that criminals will find a way around the system and it was important to protect the rights of those who have the proper permits.

Brown responded with, "The ends justify the extremes."

Can the police provide a 100% guarantee that no-one will come on school grounds armed? In other words, will all parking lot entrances and every door to every building be guarded by an armed officer at all times while students and faculty are on the grounds? No? Then you are attempting to deny citizens their Constitutionally guaranteed fundamental right to self defense. Everyone should come to school armed. Sorry, but in defending the Constitution "The ends justify the extremes."

3 posted on 10/21/2009 8:34:58 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: upchuck
BANG! I expected more common sense in SC. IMHO, this is dumb. Only the school's resource officer and law enforcement can use armed self defense. See you later alligator. Everyone else is at the mercy of the bad guys.
4 posted on 10/21/2009 8:38:56 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

“Law enforcement is against this 100 percent,” said Capt. Nelson Brown of the Georgetown Police Department. “We go with a zero-tolerance policy with firearms on school property.”

People will break into cars and if there are guns there it will mean that firearms are in the hands of non-permitted individuals, Brown told school board members. He also said confrontations could escalate with students if they know they can break into a teacher’s car and get a gun.

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What utter Bravo Sierra. Spoken by the kind of cop who can’t stand the thought that anybody who isn’t a cop could possess a weapon. “The ends justifies the extremes” - what ARROGANCE! Same rationale that forces me to leave my weapon at home when I go on base, when I have three expert marksmanship awards (2 AF, 1 Navy) and an “all-access” Texas CHL. Makes no sense.

Colonel, USAFR


5 posted on 10/21/2009 8:39:28 PM PDT by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: neverdem

Uh oh.

Another “gun free” zone.

You know what that means...


6 posted on 10/21/2009 8:44:21 PM PDT by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: neverdem

Now that they’ve created yet another government mandated soft-target, they can get down to the business of appropriating money for the inevitable grief counseling.


7 posted on 10/21/2009 8:51:04 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: neverdem
An interesting legal issue.

The Board can possibly legally prohibit them on school property, but the existence of a state law that permits them under certain conditions will put that prohibition into a legal quandary.

There is no legal CRIMINAL penalty for failure to follow a school board POLICY, so threats of arrest are BS. The chief's argument about breaking into cars would be laughed out of court. They could however threaten a person's job if they brought a weapon onto the property.

But unless the person bringing the weapon onto the property tells them they have done so, then using the power of the police to detect an activity that is not illegal but simply against a governmental entity’s policy might violate some right of the fired person.

Legally very interesting. Would love to be arguing it when it comes to court, and it will come to the Bar, but if you are there, DO NOT volunteer you have a weapon or answer any questions along that line without advice of local counsel.

8 posted on 10/21/2009 8:53:27 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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To: neverdem

“Gun Free Zones” should apply to cops too.


10 posted on 10/21/2009 9:11:46 PM PDT by VR-21 (There was a rush, along the Fulham Road....)
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“The dogs do pick up the smell of gunpowder and will be able to detect some weapons, Dozier said.”


Might be interesting to regularly spinkle a little gunpowder on/around Superintendent Dozier’s car.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 9:56:41 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: neverdem
People will break into cars and if there are guns there it will mean that firearms are in the hands of non-permitted individuals, Brown told school board members.

So, El Jefe, why do you allow criminals such wide latitude?

Elliott pointed out that criminals will find a way around the system and it was important to protect the rights of those who have the proper permits.

Brown responded with, "The ends justify the extremes."

Spoken like a true totalitarian Liberal licker of criminals' boots...and a tacit admission that you and your cops are useless at preventing crime.

And, speaking of 'preventing crime': why, Oh High And Mighty Chief, are you not only condoning, and openly advocating, but even conspiring to violate state law, which you are supposedly sworn to enforce?

12 posted on 10/21/2009 10:31:33 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (God wants a Liberal or RINO hanging from every tree. Tar & feathers optional extras.)
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To: neverdem

The decision is devoid of logic. Anyone bent on making trouble will waltz right in and commence shooting. This decision only makes it possible they’ll have full rein.

As for guns being stolen from parked cars that shouldn’t be an issue b/c the permit holders should be wearing them!

Bottom line here is guns aren’t the problem. It’s the disintegration of society that is. This ‘decision’ dithers around the edges in an attempt to make it appear as those in ‘power’ are doing something.


21 posted on 10/22/2009 7:49:26 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: neverdem
A state law enacted in June made an exception to the state's ban on weapons on school property. The law allows those with permits to have a concealed weapon on school grounds if it is in a parked car in a locked compartment or if the individual is inside the vehicle.

"Law enforcement is against this 100 percent," said Capt. Nelson Brown of the Georgetown Police Department. "We go with a zero-tolerance policy with firearms on school property."


I wonder if this severely retarded SOB disarms his officers before allowing them to prowl the corridors? Zero Tolerance is zero tolerance, right?

What's that? He doesn't? That's just for the peons? Then he's also a liar as well as a fool.
22 posted on 10/22/2009 7:54:06 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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